Talk:Sexual intercourse

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"which could lead to a pregnancy if the sperm reaches the woman's egg in the fallopian tubes." <--- this would lead to ECTOPIC pregnancy, which is a serious and life-threatening condition that is probably still not a good enough reason to justify abortion to some people.

Definition of sex[edit]

Has the definition of the word "sex" changed so that it now only includes consensual acts, and excludes rape? See for example this comment about child sexual abuse, "When it comes to terminology, sex is the word that is used to describe a consensual experience. It does not apply in this situation. It is important that we use the correct terms because the word 'rape' carries a heaviness, a meaning, that 'sex' does not. Describing it as sex tends to minimize the perception of damage. Once the perception of damage is minimized, people start to wonder if maybe the child wasn't asking for it in some way." There are a lot of people these days insisting that the word "sex" is semantically incorrect to use to describe a rape. I'm not sure when that started; I don't remember hearing people say that until the past few years. Landmartian (talk) 08:14, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

    • I'm not sure when that changed, but it may have been with the third wave feminist movement. Rape was defined solely to be an act of violence, rather than sex, likely to deflect the claims victims wanted it. Greta Christina mentions this when attempting to define what, in fact, the term "sex" means in her blog post "Are We Having Sex Yet?", stating: "I'm having a bit of trouble here. Even the conventional standby -- sex equals intercourse -- has a serious flaw; it includes rape, which is something I emphatically refuse to accept. As far as I'm concerned, if there's no consent, it ain't sex." So yes, this does seem to be how many people define sex now. If sex is only consensual sexual activity, then naturally, saying "consensual sex" is redundant.My reaction is that sex should not be defined that way though. Not only because of the above. It also has been my conclusion based on reading about rape that sexual desire does motivate some offenders at the very least, to a certain degree. The idea that rape is only, solely violence, seems like a false dichotomy, since "sexual violence" is a term for a reason.