Talk:Veggie Tales

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Would a brief synopsis of the episodes go here or in essay space? ТyYarrr 14:36, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

I think there's definitely room here for a "greatest hits" section that talks about some of the themes and how the show deals with them with examples from the episodes -- I dunno about an episode-by-episode summary of the whole series, P-FosterThe Grateful Dead were neither grateful nor dead. Discuss.Moderator 14:37, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
I had to watch these as a kid, I still have them. I can do a quickie on each. Seriously, David and Bathsheba in a children's show? Тyrannosaurs 14:40, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Catigory side bar[edit]

Do we have a side-bar for something like "christian propaganda", or "the christian media?"--Pink mowse.pngGodot Warning, chocolate will make your clothes shrink 14:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

By the way, assuming anyone reads these articles but us, and visits RW for anything useful, i have always suspected that the side bars are probably the best way to push people around the site, even more than in-text links. — Unsigned, by: WaitingforGodot / talk / contribs
I love the sidebars, we have Christianity and media, but no Christian media.TyTy 16:26, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanksgiving dinner[edit]

I once saw a coloring page at a restaurant (for kids, obviously) that featured the VeggieTales characters sitting at a table eating Thanksgiving dinner...with plenty of vegetables, like corn and carrots and yams. I wish I could find it online, I'm sure there's a great lesson behind it... -- Seth Peck (talk) 21:32, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

In the Christmas audio cassette tape, the veggtibbiles are visited by a Polish... entity(?) named Oscar, who then inexplicably changes the subject to Polish cuisine, complete with ingredients. ТyYes? 00:31, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Making it relevant to the site missions[edit]

Sorry to put a downer on this, but I don't see the point in the current article. It's definitely a mission-worthy subject, if we can explore whether the show is promoting fundamentalism & pushing a political agenda, for example. But trivia lists of characters & episodes just looks like fancruft. WēāŝēīōīďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 00:52, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

From what I've seen of it, it isn't particularly pushy and political. It's okay, and ends with a Bible verse or "remember kids, Jesus really does love you if you're good boys and girls". One TV broadcaster got rid of the Christian parts, but the creator didn't get uppity about it. The latter alone is an interesting enough story to document, but it's not particularly fundie in its ways. It's just fun silliness with a vaguely Christian message (it's not as a shitactular as Bibleman), which is only objectionable if you're a fundie of a competing religion. Scarlet A.pngbomination 01:25, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Looks pointless to me. Mission mission mission. Make it stick or stake it, Mick. ħumanUser talk:Human 01:43, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
The only thing I can think of is that it's used as a 'good' alternative to kids shows with 'inappropriate' messages, at least by some parents. Though the phenomenon of 'OH NOES CARTOONS ARE IMMORAL' and the shows, voices, and outcry surrounding it might be a better article candidate than just VeggieTales. If we don't have something like that already. Do we? KnightOfTL;DR (talk) 01:54, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Meh, leaning toward delete. Тyeh? 01:56, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps it could stay if it has a section explaining that we couldn't figure out a way to make it on-mission? That would be an odd category... ħumanUser talk:Human 02:15, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

mission[edit]

I don't see no pseudoscience, anti-science, crankery, authoritarianism, or fundamentalism. VeggieTales is about the nicer bits of Christian morality (not being a dick, being generous, respecting parents, avoiding consumerism, etc.), and to my knowledge never discussed creationism, homophobia, or anything like that. But then again, maybe I'm just trying to defend a beloved part of my early childhood... Swerve (talk) 20:03, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm not an American and only knows of this show from seeing it mentioned on the internet by others... However I could see this article as mission related if Veggie Tales tried to advance biblical literalism, which in my opinion is always pseudo-scientific. One episode portrayed a story featuring king David. Maybe this is a bit of a stretch, but I could see this being construed as advancing pseudo-history. - Bill Rawls (talk) 20:45, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
VeggieTales relates Bible stories allegorically, implicitly regarding them as if they were historical truth, but Biblical pseudohistory is believed by many, many Christians and I don't see how this show stands out. Swerve (talk) 04:34, 24 March 2014 (UTC)