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Regarding [http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki:Technical_support&diff=866843&oldid=866842 this post]

I know it is just one line, but it speaks volumes about how you look at a lot of editors here. Let me explain why I think you're not on solid ground for this.

I can't speak for fuckers like Brxbrx or Maratrean, but I take offense at the implication that people like me, Nx, and AD care more about rules and Coopings than the RW mission. The fact that a whole lot of people here aren't actually focused on the mission (it's always been that way) and come here for interpersonal interactions, is the reason we have so many disputes and arguments over interpersonal policy in the first place.

I'm not criticizing that aspect of RW - if we were completely mission-driven, we'd be pretty much a niche-Wikipedia - but it's a reality that can't be ignored. We (people like myself and AD) want to improve the wiki in any way we can, whether that means editing mainspace, discussing site policy or making the case that a user's actions were destructive to the site. You might argue that the latter two are pointless or ill-advised, and that's an argument we've had and should have again...

Personally, the reason I keep editing here is mainspace. In fact, most of my proposed policy changes have been related to mainspace articles, like deletion policy and encouraging good article editing... that is, before RW imploded earlier this year in a schism that had almost nothing to do with mainspace editing (which tells a lot about what's important to the RW community [and I'll include myself in that, as I was partially responsible for the whole thing]).

I'm rambling. Sorry. But I think I've made about 83% of half a point.

Blue (pester)03:34, 10 September 2011

Fair enough about caring about mission, but I'm not sure I agree that Nx and AD are helping. Ignoring trolls is the best way to deal with them. That's all.

steriletalk18:36, 10 September 2011