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The "Very fine people" Hoax[edit]

  • I created a page about the "Very fine people" Hoax (now an essay)
  • The page was quickly moved from the 'main space' to the 'draft space'
14 September 2020, 18:00 (Move log) Cosmikdebris (talk | contribs) moved page Very fine people Hoax to Draft:Very fine people Hoax without leaving a redirect ‎(not yet ready for main space; the subject will probably prove very contentious; i also serious question the missionality of this piece).
  • Then one user deleted the page without following the rules for page deletion
15 September 2020, 11:25 (Deletion log) Jeh2ow (talk | contribs) deleted page Draft:Very fine people Hoax ‎(Hopelessly off-mission: Extremely false)
"if a user wants a page deleted, they should bring it up on RationalWiki:Articles for deletion (formerly, the standard way was to discuss deletion on the article's talk page). It is considered polite to leave a message on the article creator's talk page, if they're still using the wiki." (from RationalWiki's Community standard)
  • After I disputed the deletion, another user blocked me, in violation of the blocking policy of RationalWiki
16 September 2020, 09:34 (Block log) Coigreach (talk | contribs) blocked Pam (talk | contribs) with an expiration time of 3 hours (account creation disabled) ‎(A very fine person)
"Blocking should never occur if somebody is attempting to discuss an issue in a reasonable manner. Blocking is not to censor alternate opinions, but to prevent disorder." (from RationalWiki's Blocking policy)
  • Since users were supporting the deletion of the page without having read the page, I made it an essay. One user immediately added a template to the beginning of the essays labeling it as "spam", in violation of the rules about essays
16 September 2020, Essay:Very fine people Hoax 16:07 (cur | prev) (+13)‎ DuceMoosolini (talk | contribs) (drive-by template)
"Discussion is encouraged on the talk page of each essay but the essay itself should not be edited without express invitation by the original author." (from RationalWiki Essay)
  • I disputed the "spam" template, but a moderator said it should remain.