User talk:Rursus/The structure of cult thinking

Theoretically, if a person's capability of logical inference and comparison of cult statements with experience and "gut feelings" (intuition?), superseeds the rate at which those cult statements are made, then the person will reject the cult. - Not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean that if someone can't process statements fast enough then they'll join the cult? If so, any old Gish Gallop would convert someone on the spot. You have to do at least some processing of an idea - inference and comparison with experience - to follow a cult, otherwise the statements would sweep over you and you also wouldn't join. It's probably dependent on how far you get in the process, which questions you ask and which questions you're satisfied not to ask. ^sshole 12:02, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Q: Do you mean that if someone can't process statements fast enough then they'll join the cult?

A: approximately, yes, but not quite "on the spot". A vast "mind reform" mind set has to be implemented. Humans have natural defence reactions against the situation of too many statements to process, f.ex. physical flight or outright rejection, and those defence systems have to be overridden by some kind of "authority" or other artificial means.

Note: my text says: if the thinker thinks faster, then the thinker will reject the cult. I don't actually claim the inverse implication, but the cult thinking faster should be one of their prerequisits to avoid total failure.

Otherwise, thanks for the input. Rursus dixit (yada³!) 09:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

The basic rule is that if something is too good to be true, then it almost certainly is neither good nor true. A cult will give whatever it can give cheaply and then drain the recruit before giving more. Nobody and no organization can solve all your problems.Life is never so simple. Pbrower2a (talk) 21:01, 1 November 2021 (UTC)