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[edit] "claims it's anti-semitic when it's really anti-muslim"

It's certainly anti-Muslim in that the people orchestrating it intend to slander a whole population group as anti-semitics. But that it's been appropriated to target non-Jews doesn't stop the message from being anti-semitic, in my view. (talk) 10:57, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Right. There's two interpretations of publicly made statements. One with context intact, which is clearly anti-Muslim bigotry, and one without context, which is anti-Semitic as as hell. When you're running an advertising campaign, you can be held accountable for what something seems to say without context. If the context makes you look bad, you're accountable for that too. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 13:46, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
It's not just a matter of context & intent. It's a matter of the effect it has on people, i.e. whether it offends people and/or influences/reinforces people's prejudices. WěǎšěǐǒǐďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 17:55, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
That too. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 18:02, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
I can't help but think that the group that sponsored those ads scored something of an own goal there, though. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 02:55, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
The point of radicalizing propoganda isn't to appeal to a majority, but to create hardliners out of moderates on your own side. This seems more like that than the wider net of broad appeal. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 15:56, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] 10000 times stronger than chemotherapy

I wonder if the person with that bullshit alt med actually stopped to think about how being 10,000 times stronger than chemotherapy isn't necessarily a good thing (not to say that it actually is). I mean chemotherapy isn't known as a particularly pleasant thing and indeed it essentially amounts to trying to kill cancer cells with poison. A better headline would have been 10,000 times more poisonous! Although tbh as it is essentially the bullshit idea that you need to "balance the pH of your body" it isn't necessarily the most stupid alternative medicine therapy you could try. Samstr (talk) 15:15, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Well... unless you try to "rebalance" it really quickly, by drinking something with a pH of 1. That'll end you even faster than those things you list. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 15:19, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
When I was a child, I was addicted to mixing vinegar and baking soda. The fizz still makes me smile. Makes a great water balloon. And you're keeping that pH balanced! - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 03:32, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
An idea occurs as a result of this. Divided paintballs. One side is filled with dyed baking soda, one side with dyed vinegar. PAP *FIZZ* ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 17:36, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] I personally can't wait.....

... for Hollywood to finally get around to making Kriemhild and the Nibelungen. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 15:20, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Pregnant Hands

I almost posted this story myself earlier today, but I couldn't tell how serious the guy was being. I'm pretty sure that he said it fairly tongue-in-cheek, so I wasn't convinced it was quite blog worthy. He seems to be retweeting the story on his Twitter account without commentary, so I'm assuming he's amused at how serious everyone seems to be taking it, but I don't read Turkish so I can't be sure either way. All that said, at the very least we know it's not a Poe. --OverworldTheme (talk) 23:22, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

I've heard of babies being born out of weirder body parts. Granted, it was in a story from Greek mythology. (talk) 23:34, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Don't mention bitcoins on the first date

Lol. Just lol. (talk) 23:32, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Psh, amateurs. I mentioned Bitcoin on my first date with my girlfriend and I totally trickled down her economy later that night, if you know what I mean. --Kungo GumiQui ça ? 07:11, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] So apparently, gay rights is a communist conspiracy...

I found this little gem this morning. It must be from the infiltration of our precious bodily fluids. --Umichcynic (talk) 15:20, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

It always confuses me how communism and homosexuality are connected. I'm sure Kenny has written something about it, but I don't feel like vomiting. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 17:43, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Stalin, at least, was not a fan of homosexuality. Big on the whole "Make us lots of Russian babies to conquer the world" philosophy. At any rate, I'm almost certain this is just derived from the Christian-Capitalist identity movement. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 18:58, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Don't know much about British politics

... but it strikes me as entirely possible that the Tory party in the UK may well be the least conservative major party over there. It certainly is true of US politics, where the One True Conservatism of the Republican party has turned itself into an ideological checklist. The ideology is full of Big Plans to dismantle some of our institutions and fundamentally alter others. That's the opposite of conservative AFAIAC. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 17:29, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

You're equivocating the word "conservative". Calling the Tories a left-wing anything is an absurdity - David Gerard (talk) 00:12, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps. I tend to prefer Bierce's definition of 'conservative': "A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others." Anybody with Big Plans to reorder society according to an ideological blueprint is not a conservative, even if they're working from a right-wing blueprint rather than a left-wing one. You can be right-wing without being conservative. The US Republican party has ceased to be conservative for some time, and the more right wing it becomes the less conservative it is. The same might also be true in the UK. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 13:36, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
If their blueprint is one once buried in the past and dusted off, though, there is no better term than 'conservative'. Part and parcel of wanting to uphold the old status quo is undoing previous changes to the status quo you disliked. By your definition, the only 'conservative' position would be one of complete inaction, which would render it a useless term. Queexchthonic murmurings 13:46, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
In fact, there's a term for wanting to roll back social changes. It's "Reactionary" which is synonymous with "far right" in the old french system for which the directional identities are named. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 13:51, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
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