Debate:Has "true" communism ever been tried?

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The socioeconomic underpinnings of communism are often summarized briefly as "good in theory, but bad in practice". My interest is whether people are correct in stating that "true communism" has never been attempted, and that most if not all of the failed communist states were actually just oligarchic regimes who were communist only in name. Is it fair to consider that there has never been an earnest attempt to create a communist system, or are the countless failures to implement one just evidence that the conditions for creating a stable communist state have not yet occurred and may never occur. Marxist theory helps to make sense of a lot of things when considering the evolution of society, but it is Marx existed in a very different time than the one we currently find ourselves and much of what Marx believed has not stood the test of time.Mentok (talk) 01:56, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

If you are inquiring as to whether anyone has ever attempting to build a purely Marxist state, then the answer is no. Comrade GC (talk) 14:32, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
I'm wondering if any attempt to build a state using purely Marxist ideology is even possible, and if that state could even be successful. Mentok (talk) 07:32, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Well technically there couldn't be a truly "communist" state purely because "true communism" (at least as defined by Marx) would only be achieved ounce the entire world is stateless, and everyone lives by "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs".Comrade General Pootis (talk) 19:48, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
I believe there has been no country that actually considered itself communist. They all called themselves socialist, which they considered the transitionary stage to communism. But I don't think any country actually claimed to have achieved communism. The USSR didn't, for example.Dendlai (talk) 19:58, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Well wouldn't that imply that communism is impossible, or at least very unlikely give the current world we live in. I mean warp drive exists in theory but I'm not holding my breath that it will be a reality any time soon. Disregarding the fact that one is a scientific theory, and the other is a social theory-just because it fits within the model we have created for it, doesn't mean it's in any way feasible.Mentok (talk) 01:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)