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Not a complaint, but just saying thanks for doing the thankless job of adding those little digits and UTC at the end of comments and edits. — Unsigned, by: / talk

Paleolibertarian Page[edit]

The Paleolibertarian page includes quotes and descriptions from a Paleoconservative. The article needs to be updated with actual Paleolibertarian quotes and descriptions. As of right now neither Paleolibertarian, Paleoconservative, Libertarian, or even Paleo is mentioned once on Phyllis Schlafly's page. — Unsigned, by: / talk


While it's not worthy of the attempted cooping, you should not block users after one edit. Please read over the blocking policy again. —Kazitor, pending 02:43, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@Kazitor Both of our current trolls are guilty of both points three and four of the long term blocking requirements. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:00, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Do note that almost all behaviours should be met with short blocks, not indefinite. Don't forget the existence of the vandal bin either. But even then, one edit is not enough to take any action. (and why is pinging so inconsistent?) —Kazitor, pending 06:52, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
You really need to lay off the banhammer. The vandal bin exists for a reason. But also, "impersonation" leading to an indefinite block? Are you serious? —Kazitor Kazitor sig pic.png 02:09, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
@Kazitor I will try to be more merciful in the future, though I am not accustomed to using kid gloves on rather blatant trolls. In closing I apologize for my behavior and will endeavor to improve it as best I can. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:26, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Much appreciated. —Kazitor Kazitor sig pic.png 22:49, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Your reverts[edit]

First of all, certain parts of the Bible being fictional does not mean that the entirety of the Bible is fictional. That doesn't even make sense. There's no way to know for certain whether or not figures like Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, and Jacob existed because they were random people living in the desert thousands of years ago who would have gone largely unnoticed in their own time. You can't prove or disprove their existence.

Secondly, Julius Evola was not a fascist - he was even farther to the right, and rejected fascism. He didn't ascribe to fascist beliefs like the notion of a national rebirth being necessary, for example. Julius Evola is his own type of batshit crazy reactionary. --Sailor Haumea (talk) 00:09, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

@Sailor Haumea There is no evidence that anything within the Old Testament is true, ergo by default it is false. As for the Evola, Trump and Le Pen.... Trump has been described by experts as displaying Proto-Fascist tenancies, Le Pen is an outright Fascist, and Evola was his own brand of crazy that while not specifically Fascist, was related to Fascism. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:21, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
"There is no evidence that anything within the Old Testament is true"? Except for artifacts corroborating parts of the Books of Kings and Chronicles. So you're wrong about that. --Sailor Haumea (talk) 01:08, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
@Sailor Haumea Do you perchance have better sources than Wikipedia? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 01:25, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
Here. It's reasonably certain that King David was a historical figure and he founded a dynasty in Israel. --Sailor Haumea (talk) 01:32, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
late to this, but... Spider-Man fallacy covers this, I think. (talk) 15:05, 18 July 2018 (UTC) (Sophie)

Please give reasons for reversions[edit]

As a rule, I only use rollback for obvious vandalism like blanking or spamming. Even if it's something as transparent as flipping the POV, use undo and please provide an explanation. —Kazitor Kazitor sig pic.png 10:17, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Was I wrong to comment in the coop?[edit]

I'm still not entirely sure when it is or isn't proper for somebody to comment in a coop. Sorry if what I did was a violation.Teurastaja (talk) 01:53, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

It's archived from a while ago, so it was settled. You should check the dates and time when it's archived to make sure. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 01:55, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
@Teurastaja All is forgiven, however it's best to avoid editing archived pages as that somewhat defeats to point of archiving them. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 01:59, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Something nice for a change[edit]

Happy birthday, comrade! Spud (talk) 14:46, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

@Spud Thank you! ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:15, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
@Spud That's a song from the imperialist warmongering capitalist pigs. We prefer songs written by our fellow glorious working class revolutionaries, such as this one. Nerd (talk) 15:39, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
Congrats man. I have no clue how old you are but happy birthday all the same. :) ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 16:03, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
Late to the party, but Happy Birthday! RoninMacbeth (talk) 02:20, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Capital Offense[edit]

Dear Comrade Grammar, please be advised that according to the standard rules of capitalization, all words of the title of a book or article other than prepositions and articles, if they are not the first word, must be capitalized. Nerd (talk) 03:56, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

@Nerd In my defense I was more concerned with formatting than spelling when I made that edit. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:59, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Comrade, spelling and capitalization are not the same thing. Nerd (talk) 04:02, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure I agree...[edit]

… with your vandal binning of 5ive or the 3 month block of Hello Everyone. Their posts on WIGO seem accurate to me. --RWRW (talk) 13:13, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

@RWRW You do realize that they're the same person right? They're also User:SouthAfrica, User:The Rationalist 01, A literal laundry list of BoNs, and User:Dank Kekistan Memes to name but a few guises they've used. All of them banned, binned, or told to fuck off when it became clear that they had nothing to offer beyond juvenile far-right trolling. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 13:24, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Ahhh… I wasn't aware that they've been doing this for a while. --RWRW (talk) 13:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Why can I not archive discussions on my own talk page?[edit]

The discussions I archived were old discussions that I think the community would agree are best left to lay like a lazy dog. What's wrong with doing that? What a Wonderful World (talk) 18:01, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

I missed the archive page you created. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 18:03, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Formatting updates[edit]

Dear Comrade, can you please tell me the difference between {{reflist|group=note}} and <references group="note"/>? Thanks! Nerd (talk) 20:38, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

@Nerd The first one is a template from the edit toolbar (Which needs to be updated to remove "Subst" from several templates, and is cleaner to look at when editing an entire page. The second is a manually added template that isn't as clean to look at in edit mode. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:45, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Ah, so it's all about being "clean". Got it! I've been doing it the old-fashioned way for a long time. I suppose I should just use the new code from now on. I hate change. I like things the way they are. Why do you people keep changing things? Nerd (talk) 20:49, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Not bugging Nerd with my answer to your question[edit]

Yes, that's the one. It's not without its problems as a hypothesis, but it is one of the more interesting conjectures to suggest the hidden variable interpretation of quantum mechanics. I haven't read enough physics journals to see if it's had a stern rebuking from other physicists. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 16:29, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

@Ikanreed Ah. Then that would seem to be based on the same premise as my rather amateur theory, i.e. that the concept of time,space, and matter ceasing to well, matter can be explained by a black hole, or at least the event horizon of one. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 16:43, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
PS: Please forgive my ignorance regarding physics, I only really studied some basic concepts via a kids/teenager science encyclopedia, and that was years ago. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 16:45, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Apologizing for ignorance is kinda like apologizing for breathing, we all do it and it's only annoying if you do it 3 inches from my face. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 18:00, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Please, don't give nazis any room[edit]

Please. It wasn't a demopping and anyone could give him the rights back if he proved to later not be crazy, but nazis are not okay. And taking an engineered smear campaign by nazis(and there's a paper trail here) to get a minority writer fired as something that just needs peace and understanding. Please reconsider your appeal to the process. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 20:51, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

@Ikanreed If you took it to the Coop I would probably vote on your side, but my standard policy is once Sysoped only de-Sysoped via Coop. Why do you think I fought so hard to prevent RWRW from gaining Sysop rights? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:55, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Makes sense, the paper trail I mentioned fwiw. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 20:56, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
'Tolerant' left-wingers being tolerant of other's views... --RWRW (talk) 21:11, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
No, We're just sick of bullcrap, sick of moderates nodding their heads to what extremists say because "screw the left", tired of tribalism, tired of the primitive crap that costs people their lives. You want to try your ideas out? Fine! Go buy an island and set up your perfect paradise of special specialness, and if it succeeds I'm sure everyone will be very impressed. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 21:15, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
I will never, ever tolerate nazis, the way I tolerate mere difference of opinion. And if you think I should, that's because you fucking suck at having a functional brain. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 21:18, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
And would you both consider me to be a Nazi? Because I certainly don't consider Kingdamian1 to be pushing any Nazi agenda. Any sane person would be utterly opposed to Nazi ideology. --RWRW (talk) 21:34, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
I made it clear that specifically the stupid ass smear campaign was nazi originated and the reason for my objection, but I'm also aware of the biological need of smug dimwits to say "so everyone you disagree with is a nazi?" regardless of the particular facts; just get it out of your system. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 02:03, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
I am honestly confused, can you quote anything I said that supports Nazism? Or which Nazi website did I link to? I am a bit confused! Kingdamian1 (talk) 02:13, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
@Kingdamian1 While the jury is still out as to how much of this crap you actually believe, the fact is that several talking points you've brought up are Nazi in origin. that is to say you might not be a Nazi but the talking points are. Or let me put it another way, James Randi supports Eugenics, and as far as any of us know he himself is not a racist, however eugenics is. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:50, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
@Kingdamian1As I've said to you before, much of the problem seems to be that you parrot talking points without actually thinking about them first. And then you stick by them while ignoring the people refuting you, and then you get offended when we stop taking you seriously. That kind of stuff doesn't make you look good. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 02:53, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
What do you mean by Nazi talking points? Do you mean that Nazis may agree with me on something? If so, then how is it my problem? You stated that you believe in open borders. That is the talking point of many black supremacists, does that make you a black supremacist? --Kingdamian1 (talk) 02:56, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Open borders has its roots in several different schools of political thought, including but limited to, Anarchism, Libertarianism, Anacho-Libertarianism, Anarcho-socialism, Libertarian Socialism, and Anarcho-Communism. Where you got the idea that the concept of open borders originated with advocates of a black ethno-state is beyond me, as much like their white counterparts, they value control over freedom. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:10, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
That should be "its" not "it's". With the contraction, what you wrote is "Open borders has it is roots in several different schools..." I sentence you to no less than 10 and no more than 15 years of hard labor in the Grammar Gulag, comrade. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 03:15, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Have mercy Comrade, for it is late and I am tired. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:17, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
It was just an example. Just because Nazis might agree with someone, does not make one a Nazi. I am sure many racists agree with Richard Dawkins' gene theory of evolution. --Kingdamian1 (talk) 03:38, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
As @DuceMoosolini pointed out, it's not that they agree with you. It's that you agree with them. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:42, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Can you explain what you mean? I am the POLAR opposite of Nazism. When it comes to racism, not only am I NOT racist, but I think that the concept of race is outdated and needs a reform at least! Kingdamian1 (talk) 03:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Edit of the "Self-Refuting Idea" article[edit]

That source I gave was my own deviantart profile, where I quote C.S. Lewis. It was simply the most readily available source of the quote I had access to. You didn't claim issue with the logic itself when you removed my edit (btw I personally find it odd that a *logical argument* needs a source, but hey), so what source would you prefer I use?Skadooshbag (talk) 23:32, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

@Skadooshbag None, given that the Omnipotence/Omniscience problem applies even with the variables of infinite time/space, as those merely (infinitely) prolong the problem. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:34, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
@GrammarCommieEither you've misunderstood the counterargument, or I've miscommunicated it. Infinite space-time has nothing to do with it. The original argument says "a being stated to be both omnipotent and omniscient would be unable to do anything but the things it had foreseen itself doing..." and the counter I'm trying to give is that this does not apply, since God does not 'foresee' anything, as God exists outside of time. This is what is meant when it is said that a day for the Lord is like a thousand years, and a thousand years for the Lord is like a day. Here are some analogies:
1a)Draw a timeline of your entire life--from birth to death--on a sheet of paper. Eternity is represented by the sheet of paper the timeline is on.
1b)Draw a timeline of your entire life--from birth to death-- on a sheet of paper. Now pick that paper up and look at it edge-on. That is how God views and experiences your life.
2)Take any standard comic book. for the characters in-universe the events occur one after another as they transpire, but *you* have each individual panel all at once in your hands at the same time.
3)All the timezones converge at the North and south poles, so what time would you say it is *at* the poles right now?
Now do you see why it is inaccurate to speak of God as "foreseeing" things?Skadooshbag (talk) 03:33, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Then God is not Omniscient. Also, how does a being who exists outside of time exist, since time is one of the building blocks of reality? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 04:05, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
1)It's clear you're having trouble grasping this. God is not ignorant of the future, God is *already experiencing* it. Just as how the sheet of paper with the timeline drawn on it does not "foresee" the later events, but experiences all events on the timeline at the exact same moment. 2) Time is one of the fundamental building blocks of *this universe*; God is no more obliged to abide by the rules or laws of a universe they've created than Bill Gates is obliged to abide by the codes and algorithms of a program he's created. 3) Even then, I'm surprised you have to ask this question in the first place; physicists have been saying that there are things outside of time for several years now. Photons and the insides of black holes do not experience time, for example.Skadooshbag (talk) 06:38, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Then the problem remains. Look, just give up trying to defend this concept, the only plausible models are A)that there is no deity, no afterlife, no destiny and that the universe and everything in it are naturally occurring phenomena, or B) polydeisticWikipedia's W.svg. Those are the results we get when we apply both Occam's razor and Hitchens' razor to the problem. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 12:48, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
I don't understand why the problem remains. Science itself ha already established the existence of timelessness, so explain the problem form the perspective of a hypothetical sapient and omniscient black hole. And what do destiny or polydeism have to do with it?Skadooshbag (talk) 14:33, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Hey. Don't go re-undoing my edit if you can't justify your argument, dude. I gave you plenty of time to give a response, and you didn't. If you can't justify your edit, then don't make it. Remember what that other person told you after our fiasco with the pseudoskepticism page.Skadooshbag (talk) 17:18, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
I apologise if my schedule conflicts with yours, however, I have explained why your counterargument falls short and have no desire to repeat myself. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 17:48, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
Okay, I apologize for my harshness (I've been trying to argue with a rather immature bunch of flat-earthers lately), but you really didn't explain what's wrong with the counterargument, at least not that well. The first time you merely said "then God is not omniscient," then the next time you merely said "then the problem remains" before jumping to some false-dilemma preclusions without actually explaining how they follow. Are you under the impression that God needs to be bound by time in order to be omniscient? Or maybe you misunderstood me? See, when I said "God is outside time," I didn't mean that God has no presence within the temporal frame of reference; is that what you were thinking? A better way of phrasing it would be that God is beyond time, but still fully interpenetrates it. Like how the quantum foam does with any given object. It is not bound by the circumference of that object, but is filly present within it just as much as without it nonetheless. Did that clear it up? Remember friend, it's better to lose an argument than to win it, since when that happens you get to learn something new.Skadooshbag (talk) 01:32, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
@Skadooshbag "Did that clear it up? Remember friend, it's better to lose an argument than to win it, since when that happens you get to learn something new." first off, stop with this nonsense, you have yet to prove your point.
Second off, by saying that the Abrahamic God exists outside of reality/spacetime you attempt to move to goalposts to a "safe area" for your claims. Given that the area between universes is theorized to be a chaotic soup with nothing that could even come close to being called life, let alone intelligent, this comes off as pretty desperate. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 01:53, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

"Excessive vandalism"[edit]

One user making a few edits is not "excessive" and usually not "vandalism" – in most cases you can just revert a few times, but if they persist, protect for "Counter-productive edit warring" instead. And keep the duration reasonable; even one hour would make most people give up, but a few hours is fine too. —Kazitor Kazitor sig pic.png 10:21, 10 August 2018 (UTC)


you should stop reverting my edits they my edits i made them so leave them — Unsigned, by: AnAppeal / talk / contribs

i started coop case youre so banned now they will ban you and youll cry because you banned — Unsigned, by: AnAppeal / talk / contribs
The Saloon bar is not an aproprate venue for attempting to get a ban revoked.
PS: Learn to write. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 22:51, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Aw, don’t be mean to the poor kid. He can’t be older than 12. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 22:57, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Stop giving us a bad name[edit]

Having came back after about half a year, I've seen some of your edits and to be honest, they aren't very good. Despite clear evidence displayed from myself, the Mao page continues to suffer from a anti Communist bias, and no one has used the sources that I gathered up to fix it. It still functions as a bunch of shitty statements. Get reading, and get it fixed. Click Link Or Gulag (talk) 03:29, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

"But I thought this was supposed to be RATIONALWiki!" Drink! Cosmikdebris (talk) 03:50, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
But the cynicism is correct, the page lacks many sources, and is generally seen as full of incorrect statements. For the record- it's rather funny that legit issues with articles are laughed off by their users. Nice to see this place hasn't changed a bit. Click Link Or Gulag (talk) 05:39, 11 August 2018 (UTC)


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Block evasion[edit]

I'm not sure who you thought this was a few days ago but you obviously confused me with someone else because I'm not evading any blocks... (talk) 18:50, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

By the way... That was actually me, I just felt like not logging in. It's not Grawp or anything like that. What a Wonderful World (talk) 23:56, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
I was adding to what I already said, not replying to myself, so I don't know why you would change the formatting like that, but whatever. Hi myself! Bye myself! ;) What a Wonderful World (talk) 01:01, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
@What a Wonderful World Because it's the proper formatting standard. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 01:04, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Never knew that to be true on other wikis, but whatever. It's your page, do as you wish. What a Wonderful World (talk) 01:11, 15 August 2018 (UTC)