Draft talk:Jason Kenney

Drafting Article

At first, the sections of the article were going to be '2019 Alberta Election', 'Premiership', 'In Federal Politics', & then 'Homophobia'. But that format is more like Wikipedia than RationalWiki, so I'm probably instead going to organize it by claims he's made and political causes he's been involved in. The categories can be 'United Conservative Party' (functioning as a mini-article on his political party), 'Investigation into Environmental Organizations', 'COVID-19 Pandemic', & 'Homophobia'. I should ask, do you think it makes sense that I'm writing an article about Jason Kenney & not an article about the United Conservative Party, since we probably won't have both? It's a rather new party, and he's been the leader of it since it started, but in the future when they have a new leader we might want an article on the party. I suppose we should just have this article for now with the possibility of a UCP article years in the future? --LiamM32 (talk) 05:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

I mean, I think this article is sufficient for now. In the event that his party becomes important, then you should merge it with an article on his party. Till that happens, I think everything's fine and dandy. Oh, and speaking of this article: I'm going to try and help you with it. Hoping my soon-to-be-added edits are helpful; I'll start adding things tomorrow. Twodots (talk) 06:02, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Back when the election happened, I remember reading an article that said he used the conspiracy theory (described in article) in the election campaign. I believe I read at the time that he specifically accused the David Suzuki Foundation (& possible mentioned others), and said that the conspiracy was to prevent Alberta's oil from being exported to any country other than the US (to maintain a monopsony). But now I can't find that article, or any good record of him saying those last two things during the campaign. When he began the investigation in July[1], he didn't mention any specific environmental organization during his speech, but accused The Tar Sands Campaign which supposedly began in 2008. Is that a real thing, or just some fiction that him or Vivian Krause created? All I can find when searching it is this, which isn't a familiar website or organization, and then this pro-oil crap. --LiamM32 (talk) 06:12, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Well, I'd suggest doing more reading on it, asking people with experience on the subject(s) for advice, and finding some users who know stuff about this. Please keep in mind that I'm a Yank, and have no clue as to what you're talking about. From what I know, however, you generally need to cite a good, accurate, generally neutral source (BBC, NatGeo, etc.) that has a direct quote or reliable video. As I've said before, I'm a Yank, and have almost no grasp of Canadian politics apart from the basic idea of "France". Wishing you luck, though. Twodots (talk) 06:20, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Oh, and I prolly oughta mention: I'm going t' bed. Seeya. Twodots (talk) 06:23, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

The Tar Sands Campaign

I'm trying to find information about The Tar Sands Campaign, but searching that on Google or DuckDuckGo doesn't bring up much in the way of good results. Most Google results for it appear to be pro-oil propaganda who are "exposing" it. It's mentioned in these two news articles, so it appears to be a real thing. But I can't find any documentation about it that gives me a clear idea of what it was, & who was involved. All I could find from someone purportedly involved in it was a blog called CorpEthics. According to the National Observer article linked above, CorpEthics is a registered US charity based in San Francisco which was involved in funding The Tar Sands Campaign from 2008-2011, but it currently has no employees, & it now just serves as a billing entity for the founder's consulting business. There's a SourceWatch page on it. Interestingly, Rockefeller Brothers is listed as a funder of CorpEthics on SourceWatch, & a client on the CorpEthics website. But the National Observer article says that CorpEthics has not participated in The Tar Sands Campaign since 2011, and it's "Canadian & Indigenous-organized & run". So it's unfortunate that The Tar Sands campaign doesn't have it's own website, or anything else to give me a good summary of what it was. Please help me if you know anything. --LiamM32 (talk) 05:12, 10 January 2021 (UTC)