Draft talk:Minor fascist groups

Definition

Perhaps there should be a better definition of what a minor party is. United Malays National Organisation was a major political party in Malaysia since 1955, at least until after the 2013 election, getting about 30% or more of votes in national elections. For most of that time, they would probably not be what is considered to be fascist. There might be an argument for calling them that in more recent years, but I don't think it's cut-and-dried. Bongolian (talk) 20:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Then what do you propose? I created this list to catalogue fascist groups that don't have enough information to warrant a page, so it does have a legitimate purpose. Rational Dude (talk) 20:28, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I think if you asked a Malaysian whether UMNO was a minor political party, they'd look at you funny because UMNO was foundational and won multiple elections. I think any party that consistently polls low in national elections would be a candidate. What "low" is is obviously subjective though since it's going to be different for multi-party parliamentary systems vs. the US's functionally 2-party democracy. "Minor party" seems to parallel "perennial candidate", running multiple times and never winning or forming part of a coalition. Bongolian (talk) 20:37, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

True. But as I stated before, minor movements and groups on this list are those that don’t have enough information for a page. Rational Dude (talk) 21:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

There is also an issue with some of the parties listed being right wing, but arguably not fascist. Now, I don’t know about the Iranian Progress Party, so I’ll set that aside.

However, the Scandinavian Progress Parties originated with various populist tax protester anti intellectual, anti bureaucracy and anti welfare movements (note the protest commonality in all of the antis) of the late 1960s and early 1970s, but not the sort of national chauvinism that characterises fascist parties, let alone fascist ideas of national rebirth transforming society.

Chauvinist ideas would arrive, once the parties turned to focus primarily on anti immigration during the 1980s, but the rebirth and transformation ideas were and are still largely absent, though you can probably find someone holding such ideas within some or all of these parties,

Thus, while the Scandinavian Progress Parties were and are definitely all right wing, they don’t seem to be fascist, at least from my knowledge of them. ScepticWombat (talk) 17:06, 28 January 2024 (UTC)