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I didn't change anything you edited. All I did was add a warning label to the website. Aurelius (talk)23 February 2016 (EST)

James Earl Cash and Basic income[edit]


please take a look at the edits of James Earl Cash to the page Basic income. After I added some criticisms to the section Advantages (also with the consensus of Christopher), and after a very long conversation (see the Talk Page), he deleted my edits and even half of the section Disadvantages. He pretends that I'm ignoring his points, but you can see on the Talk Page that I answered to them one by one, while he is showing to effort to have a honest conversation. --McLaghing (talk) 10:08, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

It looks like Christopher has dealt with this by locking the page, @McLaghing. Bongolian (talk) 20:07, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Your thoughts[edit]

See my comments about rewriting some sections on an article.Debunking spiritualism (talk) 23:12, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Signing stickies[edit]

Should I have done so? It is my understanding that stickies are a form of site announcement, and as such reflect the majority of the site rather than one user. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:16, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

@GrammarCommie I'm not aware of the what the protocol is one way or the other. You can remove it if you think it's best. Bongolian (talk) 02:21, 6 April 2018 (UTC)


see here.Agent47 (talk) 11:20, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@Agent47: Your edit was deleted because it was in the wrong location.[1] I think that what you actually want is a change of protection for the page or a promotion to sysop. The request for the former should be made on the talk page for Rome Viharo, and the request for the latter should be made at RationalWiki:Your mother's basement. Bongolian (talk) 18:18, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
the talk page is also protected, so didn't know where else to write it. Can you unlock the Rome Viharo article and its talk? if worried about vandalism, you can protect to autopatrolled, not only sysop.Agent47 (talk) 19:00, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
@Agent47: I have changed the protection to autopatrolled. You should be able to edit now. Bongolian (talk) 19:51, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
thanks.Agent47 (talk) 21:25, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Toynbee tiles[edit]

They are 'peculiar enough' and have enough coverage (mostly of a fairly reasonable rather than not) to have #some# coverage on RW.

However I am presently otherwise engaged. Some of us have are best at starting the snowball rolling for others to add 'snark and goat'/asking (im)pertinent questions for others to demonstrate their knowledge in answering.

Perhaps there could be an article that covers the TT and other 'unofficial art and commentary in the urban environment' (but would have to be a collaborative piece). Anna Livia (talk) 09:42, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

@Anna Livia, I'm not questioning whether it's missional (it is), or whether it can be expanding (it clearly can be), but creating stubs is generally not helpful. It's betting to put it on the To Do list to gauge how much interest there might be in expanding it. Bongolian (talk) 16:13, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
I did put it on the 'suggestions list' - but people are more likely to look at the 'Recent changes' list/find it by playing Random page bingo. Not everybody can do 'snark and goat' (and Wikipedia-splat-pastes are to be avoided). Anna Livia (talk) 17:02, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@Anna Livia, if you don't have the time to work on it, it would be better to start it in your sandbox or user space. I'll move it to your user space for you. Bongolian (talk) 19:43, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@Anna Livia, It's now located at User:Anna_Livia/Toynbee_tiles. Bongolian (talk) 19:46, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
The To-do list is usually the best idea if you want the article to exist but don't know what to say. I just did so with Morrissey, who deserves an article but I don't have the time to do a missional non-stub. There's also the point that writing two sentences and hoping expecting that other people will finish it for you is unreasonable, rude even. WilderBicycle 19:53, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
I have posted it to the to do list - but the topic is not presently in the news and 'recent changes' can get more attention.
Bear in mind that not everybody is RW-centric, and most RW-ians have started elsewhere in the wikiverse, and have been involved in creating stubs or collaborating in turning such into fully fledged articles - including on RW.
  1. Most# articles on #most# wikis start off as stubs - so it is neither unreasonable nor rude to create such - and while it is fairly easy to identify a topic that is within the remit of a wiki not everybody has the time or background knowledge to go further on that particular topic. RW should be collaborative not telling people to just play around in their sandbox. Anna Livia (talk) 22:17, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Most stubs on RW don't go anywhere, particularly if the initial author doesn't put some effort into it. Stubs usually don't make any contribution at all because there is often a longer, better article already on WP, which is also true in this instance. Bongolian (talk) 23:51, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Toynbee tiles part 2[edit]

As I am not going to develop the pages myself please just delete them. - Anna Livia (talk) 22:20, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

I've deleted the page at your request. Bongolian (talk) 23:51, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Some of us are more 'kiteflyers of interesting topics (even if these become subsections of other articles)'/'askers of relevant questions, suppliers of obscure facts and undoers of Titivlllus' snarly-ups' and inforof rather than 'developers of full articles' - because we are otherwise engaged/prefer to do so/it is in our nature to do so, and we have all seen RW and WP articles with tags several years old and topics languishing on the to do list. Anna Livia (talk) 10:34, 25 April 2018 (UTC)