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User talk:Bongolian

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Attention trolls: Don't bother me here. I am busy impersonating Rome Viharo on Gab.

Ban Evasion Edits[edit]

Multiple sockpuppet accounts are editing here. Could you ban them? I'm not a sysop yet. Thanks.[1].—𝕶𝕾𝕳 🐅 11:59, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Looks like they've already been banned by Oldman4. Bongolian (talk) 17:50, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Yes and by others too. —𝕶𝕾𝕳 🐅 18:38, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Demotion req[edit]

User:Bongolian Is it possible to get demoted now? I've been here for almost two weeks (mostly active) and know most of the policies. I hope I can get demoted, or I'm ready to be demoted now so I can kick those vandals a** with my own mop. --𝕶𝕾𝕳 🐅 21:03, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

@KSH, I'm a bit too busy today to review your past edits. You can request user rights on this page: RationalWiki:Requests for user rights. I would caution you about being over-eager about blocking people. There was a recent case of a dispute about over-eager blocking. Bongolian (talk) 23:30, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
...so I reviewed the edits. Most of the mainspace ones [as far as I can tell] were putting in redirects, some addition of refs and an argument regarding the use of circumflexes. Account started to be active on the 3rd of Feb. No obvious 'bad' activities'. Speaking purely personally, I would like to see a bit more time/effort elapse first but others might feel different. KarmaPolice (talk) 23:57, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

The Longtermist / LessWronger / Race-and-IQ Nexus[edit]

Re: Futurism, it seems relevant that in one of these movements people have talked a lot about 'so yeah we are kind of a conspiracy misleading recruits and donors about our real goals.' I think Siskind's 2014 email also implied that he wanted to spread the word he was learning from far-right bloggers.

I don't like the term TESCREAL as an academic tool but I see how it was politically useful in giving a name for these interconnected movements and shutting down the dodge of "we rationalists are not scientific racists, we just let them hang out in our comments sections, talk about IQ and genetics, and have three leaders who say they believe some races are much smarter than other races" or "we Effective Altruists are not transhumanists, we are about public health - wait, where did you say my donation was spent?" — Unsigned, by: Polydamas / talk / contribs

In the meantime, I edited the page on Effective Altruism to be clearer about the tensions between shorttermist and longtermist approaches. GiveWell seemed serious about their empirical, shorttermist approach and I'm not sure they would have agreed with Bostrom or MacAskill or Yudkowski that they were just the start of a sales funnel for transhumanism and longtermism. Polydamas (talk)

OK, thanks. Bongolian (talk) 17:58, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Tech group privileges[edit]

Please add me to the Tech group. I would like to edit the Interwiki table. I plan to update links to https as needed, to remove dead links, and to add some new ones. Insanity (talk) 14:37, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

@Insanity, you can request user rights on this page: RationalWiki:Requests for user rights. There needs to be a vote for you to become a tech, as per RationalWiki:Techs#Request rights. Bongolian (talk) 16:25, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you. I did as you recommended. Insanity (talk) 18:57, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

email failed[edit]

It appears that the wiki software isn't sending emails. You can email me directly at radio[at]zappahead[dot]net —cosmikdebris talk stalk 16:03, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Question about my topic ban[edit]

Does my topic ban permit me to participate in this discussion? My topic ban is from "HBD and HDF related articles", and it isn't clear whether that applies to only the articles themselves, or also to meta-discussions like that one.

There is something related to the background of these lawsuits that I've been trying to decide whether it's worth mentioning there, but if I'm not allowed to do that anyway, it's a moot point. Tetrapteryx (talk) 01:49, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

I ordinarily, I would say that the ban applies, but since it's lawsuit related, I'm not so sure. You could send an email to one of the board members with the information you think is relevant, or you could ask for a moderator consensus on the question at RationalWiki talk:All things in moderation. It is generally inadvisable to discuss details of an ongoing lawsuit in public, so I communicated some information to board member User:DuceMoosolini earlier this week by email. Bongolian (talk) 02:24, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
Are you a board member? One of the things I was going to mention is something that it's mainly important for the board to know. So if you're on the board, I could email it to you and you could share it with the other board members.
EDIT: Okay, I see from this page that you aren't a board member. Which board member(s) do you think it would be best to contact with information related to the lawsuits? Tetrapteryx (talk) 04:53, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
DuceMoosolini seems to be the most active now, so him probably. Plutocow (talk) 05:19, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Tetrapteryx (talk) 06:03, 15 March 2025 (UTC)