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Attention trolls: Don't bother me here. I am busy impersonating Abd ul-Rahman Lomax on Conservapedia.


You might as well revoke his D account of sysop too. (talk) 22:19, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

User:D? I already did. Bongolian (talk) 22:41, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Bar issue[edit]

I thought I could hyperlink to a category aswell, since we don't have a "leftists who turned right with age". Turns out it added this category to the bar page and I don't know how to undo that. Really sorry about that. I didn't know this could happen. Arcadium Trancefer (talk) 20:52, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

@Arcadium Trancefer, Plutocow already fixed it. It is done by adding a ":" at the beginning as in: [[:Category:Leftists_who_turned_right_with_age]]. Bongolian (talk) 21:32, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Level 4 Janitors[edit]

What do Techs do? RationalWiki:Techs explains what permissions they have, but not what they do as techs most of the time. Is it mostly just edit filter maintenance? Rabbitseatcarrots (talk) 19:32, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Basically techs have the ability to do everything that moderators can do but are forewarned not to exercise certain rights that moderators have been elected to do. The main things for techs to do would be the edit filter, MediaWiki pages (primarily the Sitenotice for elections and fundraising), revision suppression (primarily for doxing an anything particularly vile), and less often other stuff that I haven't done (gadgets, interwiki). Becoming a tech was not a formality in the past but now (due to past abuse) require a request and a vote on RationalWiki:Requests for user rights. Bongolian (talk) 19:52, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
I see, thanks. I wouldn't mind helping the wiki in those aspects, might try my luck at the basement one of these days. Rabbitseatcarrots (talk) 22:06, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Weird accounts[edit]

(Moved to RationalWiki:Technical support#Weird accounts). Bongolian (talk) 15:31, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

ATIM for Boar and BUFO[edit]

Hey, I noticed what you said about Boar and BUFO on the current Rome Viharo AfD, and that made me decide to bring them up on All Things In Moderation. How do I broach that subject on their talk pages? --Luigifan18 (talk) 21:25, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I figured it out. --Luigifan18 (talk) 21:33, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
It's been almost a full day since I put up the Atim, and I haven't been contacted by Boar or BUFO at all. If my concerns continue to go unaddressed, I plan to restore the Laird Shaw article to drive home the point that I suspect foul play and I want answers. Granted, I'm mostly suspecting foul play based on your word on the matter, but I did have my own suspicions from the start, since the very first thing that BUFO did on RationalWiki upon creating the account was to start the AfD for Laird Shaw; I was just reluctant to take anything beyond the bare minimum action of a less-than-an-hour-long block on BUFO because I felt that I would be abusing my authority as a sysop by outright deleting the AfD or blocking BUFO for a prolonged period of time. I also feel that I would be abusing my authority if I were to restore the Laird Shaw article right now, since it's been less than a day since I created the Atim as I type this, but I have prepared the following notice to post on the Laird Shaw article in the event that I decide to restore it (which I might do in about three days if my suspicions remain unaddressed) or another sysop does so in my stead:

This page was previously deleted by an AfD community vote with a final result of: 7 Delete, 0 Keep, 1 Merge/Redirect.

However, recent events on RationalWiki have called the validity of the AfD into question. Specifically:

On the 2022 AfD for Rome Viharo, @Bongolian raised their concerns about the possibility that @BUFO, the user who initiated the Laird Shaw AfD, is a sockpuppet of @Boar, who in turn may or may not be a sockpuppet of Rome Viharo (who Bongolian noted to have a history of creating sockpuppets to evade blocks and harass critics). As such, at least two users, including Bongolian, suspect that Boar and/or BUFO may be attempting to scrub all traces of the existing reputation of Laird Shaw and Rome Viharo off of RationalWiki, possibly at the expense of RationalWiki's mission. Whether this is out of good or bad intentions towards Viharo and Shaw is as of yet unclear, as is the validity of Bongolian's suspicions.

For more information and to participate in the discussion about what should be done next, please see the talk page at All things in moderation.

I'm hoping that we don't end up having to use this, but if Boar and BUFO continue acting suspiciously and it appears that they are compromising RationalWiki's mission, I want to be ready to respond appropriately. Oh, and by the way, since this is based on your suspicions and I may or may not be [temporarily] sysoprevoked sometime soon, I would prefer if you take the lead on this.
(By the way, the formatting isn't working the way I'd like it to — do you have any suggestions? I think that a good template could be made out of this restoration notice I set up, to be used if any other successfully passed AfD deletion votes get called into question in the future, but I'm not sure how to do it myself.) --Luigifan18 (talk) 19:17, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
I don't think it matters that the Laird Shaw article was deleted since ultimately he is an internet nobody. Rome Viharo is another story, and based on current voting will probably not get deleted. Viharo's non-sock account (User:RomeViharo) has no privileges and no active block, so we'll probably do nothing much about the alleged sock accounts for now. Bongolian (talk) 19:51, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
I created the AfD on Shaw because he is vulnerable (a literal schizophrenic and suffers from other mental health problems) and he had a crappy article entirely consisting of forum quotes. It was not missional to the wiki. It was voted by 7 people to delete. Only Luigifan18 voted otherwise. For unknown reasons he has now created "Luigifan18/Restoration notice/Laird Shaw‎". Seems likes he wants to harass a vunerable individual. No surprise most people want to sysoprevoke him. I don't have any interest in further commentating here. Coincidentally, note @Luigifan18's stupid behaviour has also resulted in @Brisson to leave. BUFO (talk) 20:02, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
I have no interest in Laird Shaw one way or the other, I just wanted to get to the bottom of the strange behavior and rule out any sinister ulterior motives on the part of BUFO and Boar. If everything's on the up and up, I'll stay my hand. --Luigifan18 (talk) 21:06, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
@Luigifan18, there really is no good reason to go ahead with that for the Laird Shaw page. Bongolian (talk) 21:39, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Very well, I'll defer to your judgment here and I won't restore the article. (I still think that the general structure of the restoration notice that I set up would make for a good template if there is ever any reason to reconsider an AfD in the future, though. I just don't quite know how to make a proper template that could be inserted into an article or talk page.) --Luigifan18 (talk) 21:46, 29 September 2022 (UTC)