Forum:So I have a theory regarding the vastly different behavior of God in the new testament and old testament...

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First, let me make it clear that I am not at all religious. The ideas I put forth here are based upon the events described in the Bible being fiction, albeit perhaps with the occasional grain of truth (i.e., there was probably something that led to the story of the great flood, but it was not global, and was not God's doing). As any work of fiction is open to interpretation to some degree, I have my own interpretation of why God behaves differently in the old vs. new testaments.

My theory (I use this term loosely) is that, contrary to what we are told in the bible and what is generally believed (a vague statement, I know), Lucifer was not what most would consider evil. further, when he led his rebellion against God, Lucifer actually won, and has since ruled heaven in God's place. Now, let me present my reasoning behind this:


  • the terrible things that God has done are simply too numerous to list, but suffice to say the the God of the Old Testament was a ruthless, merciless, murderous bastard who clearly regarded His creations as nothing more than playthings for his own amusement. in fact, given the evidence, it would be more likely that the earth and its inhabitants came to be in the manner currently accepted by science; God simply discovered us, and claimed to be our creator.


  • Lucifer tolerated God's actions for some time, but eventually he decided enough was enough, gathered an army of like-minded angels, and removed God from power (I leave it to your own interpretation what became of God afterwards). The rebellion itself likely took place between the old and new testaments, as this is when "God's" behavior suddenly changed.


  • in addition to the very long list of God's grievances against His creations, Lucifer did not agree with the near constant intervention of God in worldly affairs, which would explain the less active role He (now referring to Lucifer) has taken since coming into power. Whether He thinks we still need him is unknown, and Lucifer's policy of non-intervention is what has prevented him from correcting those humans that still direct their prayers to God, or believe that is to whom they pray. Lucifer's belief is that, whether we were created by a madman or evolved naturally, we are quite capable of deciding for ourselves what we believe.


  • Jesus had already been prophecised when Lucifer came into power, so he decided to just go with it in order to keep up appearances. this would explain why Jesus was less 'fire and brimstone', and more 'healing the sick and helping the poor'. Indeed, had God still been in power, Jesus would probably have been more akin to how we now envision the antichrist. Jesus' claim that he would one day return, but without actually specifying when, was a nice out for Lucifer to avoid any further intervention after Jesus' departure.


  • As for the matter of Satan: put simply, he never existed. I've always heard Satan referred to as the great deciever, among other things. the general belief is that Lucifer became Satan after being cast down to hell. Instead, Lucifer created, or allowed to be created, the story (and general deception) of his defeat and transformation into basically the embodiment of all the world's evils, Angra Mainyu Satan. There is some amount of irony in this.


anyway, that's what I've got so far. thoughts?

Personally[edit]

I love all biblical fantasy not written by any sort of Christians. It's just great fun, like rethinkings of Hercules or Thor can be.

The image of a legion of angels battling a horde of devils is an extremely epic one, that is only ruined by people taking it seriously. Ikanreed (talk) 20:51, 13 February 2015 (UTC)