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Pope or Pimp?[edit]
It doesn't matter what John Paul II says about evolution because Aschlafly has uncovered some deceit in Karol Wojtyła's resumé and knows he was never Pope. 69.158.107.138 17:05, 29 November 2007 (EST)
- The smoke released wasn't pure white, and Catholic doctrine requires that white smoke be released, therefore JPII was only nominally the Pope and therefore his encyclical about evolution can be ignored. Stile4aly 17:49, 29 November 2007 (EST)
- JP II was never "Pope" - he was donated a "post" as the "bishop of Rome." In fact, he didn't even earn the "post", but instead was donated the "post" by a secret election. JP II, while he may be "bishop of Rome", he was never really "Pope"Shangrala 17:53, 29 November 2007 (EST)
- My view is that the Vatican "conferred" a "title" akin to an honorary papacy and subject to the unusual disclaimer that deprives the title of meaning as a real "pope." ...I can find no specific confirmation of it on Wojtyla's own resume. The "priest" who responded to the inquiry... appeared to be unaware of the unusual disclaimer, which was printed in a section above a list of names rather than identifying Wojtyla specifically. The bigger question has been resolved: the Vatican... confirms that Wojtyla is not the Heir to St. Peter, as that position "has not as yet been filled."--Aschlafly 14:07, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- I'm glad that we've been able to establish the falsity of Wojtyla's resume with respect to the title of "pope". One falsehood has exposed, now we are working on a possible second falsehood. Wojtyla also claims the title of "Vicar of Christ", however I see no subsequent documents confirming this decision by the Vatican. Surely if "Pope" John Paul II has really been elected to this position through the peer-review process, he can easily post the letter of appointment? Of course he will not - the letter does not exist, and his title is not valid. Godspeed. -Aschlafly 14:16, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- But the Catholic Church in every way considers him to have been the pope. They let him lead all those masses and stuff. They gave him a pretty hat. If they say he's pope, who are you to argue? --PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 19:20, 29 November 2007 (EST)
- Wikipedia attempts to censor this fact by citing documents from the Vatican, which of course, constitutes hearsay. NightFlare 19:24, 29 November 2007 (EST)
- The term "pope" is well-defined, and we've defined it here. A donor cannot simply call his friend a "pope" and expect everyone to use that title. Is Wojtyla "a clergy member of the highest clerical rank at an institution of higher religion"? Objectively, I'd say clearly not. I found that not even the zoology department at Appalachian State Technical College classifies him as a "pope".--Aschlafly
- Wikipedia attempts to censor this fact by citing documents from the Vatican, which of course, constitutes hearsay. NightFlare 19:24, 29 November 2007 (EST)
- PalMD, based on your belief that JPII was the Pope (and not merely the holder of the title "Pope") I can tell with 95.638% certainty your views on School Prayer, Abortion, and the dangliness of my left testicle. Stop inserting your pro-Catholic evolution bias or you will be blocked for violating the 90/10 rule. In Christ! Stile4aly 20:39, 29 November 2007 (EST)
- I have not seen any posting of the official letter by "The Pope" reflecting this new, apparently cost-less "popeship". Was it a merely an honorary one? Was it truly the product of a customary Bishop review? I see evidence suggesting otherwise, and the fact that no one here can point to the appointment letter speaks volumes.---Aschlafly
- PalMD, based on your belief that JPII was the Pope (and not merely the holder of the title "Pope") I can tell with 95.638% certainty your views on School Prayer, Abortion, and the dangliness of my left testicle. Stop inserting your pro-Catholic evolution bias or you will be blocked for violating the 90/10 rule. In Christ! Stile4aly 20:39, 29 November 2007 (EST)
- I think the conspiracy of silence goes beyond whether or not Wojtyla was elected pope by a properly convened council of his peers. I have yet to see any evidence that the Pope Leo is, in fact, actually dead. If Pope Leo is dead, as wikipedia claims, why can no one point to a death certificate for him? Many christians throughout the history of the Earth have lived more than 200 years, I think Pope Leo is one of them. Also, is Wojtyla actually a man? Karol sounds like a girls name to me. I think we've uncovered some glaring errors in this so-called Pope's CV. --Jeєv☭sYour signature uses all my CPU time... 06:56, 30 November 2007 (EST)