Talk:Álvaro Uribe
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Godwin[edit]
OK, isn't that a touch close to violating Godwin's Law? Not to defend the man (my focus is actually East Asia, not Latin America), but. . . Researcher 22:24, 13 November 2007 (EST)
I wasn't even aware of this law, Uribe is a fascist though. Although not as bad as Hitler, Uribe is responsible for tens of thousands of deaths. --Uncle J 22:27, 13 November 2007 (EST)
- I don't doubt any of that...but comparisons to Hitler cheapen the extreme devastation and evil that Hitler wrought. It's even got a formal title: argumentam ad Hitlerum. It's not ALWAYS inappropriate (for example: Slobadan Milosevic), but it's usually a bad idea.Researcher 22:38, 13 November 2007 (EST)
Essay?[edit]
While I have some problems with the piece, why was it moved to essay? Particularly without warning? Shouldn't it have just been improved instead? Researcher 23:13, 13 November 2007 (EST)
It was rather arbitrary wasn't it? Point taken. CЯacke®
- The photo is out unless you show me how it wasn't photoshopped. CЯacke® 23:21, 13 November 2007 (EST)
- Restored from the DB, edit history is maintained. CЯacke®
Soap Box[edit]
Now please kindly show me why this shouldn't be in the essay namespace. CЯacke®
- It is about a real person, and could be made into a decent article. I find it extremely fascinating to see how certain personalities attract this kind of hatred (or the kind of love in the Chavez article). It just needs some good citations, more than anything else. Researcher 23:51, 13 November 2007 (EST)
- Yes, it is about a real person, however it has the same sort of flavor that this does. Both are elected, both are called "dictators" by the editors of the articles about them. Were the elections free and fair? (Obviously not, since these people are "dictators".) CЯacke® 23:56, 13 November 2007 (EST)
- I agree about the tone. However, I feel it would be better if someone with more knowledge of the region were to make it better, rather than just consigning it to essay. (Particularly if it could be used to demonstrate a particular kind of irrationality, such as "the friend of my enemy is my enemy" type thinking.) Researcher 00:12, 14 November 2007 (EST)
- Yeah, but, this: "His tolerance of his neighbours, however, likely has more to do with maintaining stability than any desire for friendship with centrist and left-wing regimes," assigns motive, is unsourced and is nothing more than an (possibly imformed?) opinion: hence NS essay. CЯacke® 00:17, 14 November 2007 (EST)
- I'm willing to grant you that, but it could be taken out. Out of curiousity, what does the abbreviation "NS" stand for? Researcher 00:19, 14 November 2007 (EST)
- Yeah, but, this: "His tolerance of his neighbours, however, likely has more to do with maintaining stability than any desire for friendship with centrist and left-wing regimes," assigns motive, is unsourced and is nothing more than an (possibly imformed?) opinion: hence NS essay. CЯacke® 00:17, 14 November 2007 (EST)
- I agree about the tone. However, I feel it would be better if someone with more knowledge of the region were to make it better, rather than just consigning it to essay. (Particularly if it could be used to demonstrate a particular kind of irrationality, such as "the friend of my enemy is my enemy" type thinking.) Researcher 00:12, 14 November 2007 (EST)
- Yes, it is about a real person, however it has the same sort of flavor that this does. Both are elected, both are called "dictators" by the editors of the articles about them. Were the elections free and fair? (Obviously not, since these people are "dictators".) CЯacke® 23:56, 13 November 2007 (EST)
<-- NS= Namespace. CЯacke®
Mea culpa[edit]
Sorry for the inconvenience. CЯacke® 23:25, 13 November 2007 (EST)