Talk:Anatoly Karlin

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Support for Kamala Harris

As discussed here, Karlin has endorsed Harris and now supports the Democratic Party. Richard Spencer has done the exact same thing. It's as if Karlin cannot think outside the box on any issue and just does whatever Richard Hanania (also pro-Harris) and Richard Spencer does. All three are now calling themselves "liberals" on X and claim to support Harris. It seems Karlin also stole his reasons from Spencer as well; both claim to support Harris because of "elitism". Whatever that even means. 64.74.161.234 (talk) 00:37, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Is he still a racist? Yes.

My 2c on this since I saw it debated above.

@Sputnik sorry dude (and you're probably a Karlin sock/meatpuppet), not buying this BS. Karlin is still an outspoken eugenicist and white supremacist. As recent as a few weeks ago he was describing black people as psychopathic and promoting Richard Lynn's literature on race and IQ. He also attended an Aporia Magazine meet up and still comments on HBD blogs and promotes Steve Sailer. He still associates with all the same HBD/white nationalist crowd. He's not changed much if any of his far-right ideology but is rebranding it to sell it. It's presumably easier to sell race and IQ pseudoscience and eugenics if you claim to be a liberal and anti-racist. That's all he's doing. It's not original and as noted all he does is follow in Richard Spencer's or Richard Hanania's footsteps.

Here's Karlin as recent as August 4 2024 still making racist tweets and promoting Richard Lynn's white supremacist garbage:

To the extent there's an "issue" here, it's not Islam nor even immigration per se, but Black violence rates, which are systematically far higher than other races across all countries for which stats exist, and are downstream of higher prevalence of psychopathic personality type.

https://archive.is/teoLQ

This is the same guy who called black people a "pathologically criminalized Negro subpopulation". Nothing has changed. 64.74.161.234 (talk) 00:58, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

AK is now an 'anarcho-lib' and did change his politics from what I can tell. Concerning the claim he emails people gay porn - he was sending photos of a gay Russian porn star to make a point about EHC. He has recently blanked or censored some of these photos on X. Dracko (talk) 18:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

There's no justification to email random unexpected people gay porn or straight porn for that matter. There might also be laws against sending unsolicited sexual imagery.45.32.247.98 (talk) 00:17, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Article too long

I believe some sections should be deleted as they are too repetitive. Also, the EHC stuff is now at Elite Human Capital which I will add to.Anti-eugenicist (talk) 16:48, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Incel forum noted his antics

https://incels.is/threads/anatoly-karlin-vs-rationalwiki-beef-is-some-prime-kekfuel.636851/

103.50.33.240 (talk) 02:15, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Anatoly Karlin has possibly given up the anti-racist and Antifa grift

I think he realised no one was taking him serious as an anti-racist and self-described Antifa so he's gone back to his far-right positions e.g., he's now openly supporting the white nationalist Aporia Magazine and criticising Hope not Hate. He's also made recent tweets supporting the neo-eugenics PolygenX which is linked to neo-Nazi Martin Sellner.91.242.215.66 (talk) 17:47, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Ok. I may add a section on this. Anti-eugenicist (talk) 19:50, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Karlin lifelong Trump fan now voting for Kamala Harris

This Anataly Karlin troll changes is views more than he changes his underwear, he now says he is voting for Harris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzCckdb5ECc 64.227.43.33 (talk) 03:47, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

You realise he is a self-confessed glue-sniffing addict? 130.195.222.22 (talk) 03:50, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

He's not a citizen of the US as far as anyone knows, so can't vote here. Bongolian (talk) 03:59, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Vote to Delete Article Request by Email

Someone emailed me a request by email to create an AfD. I am not much familiar with these nor know how to create one. The person who emailed me could have been Karlin under an alias or one of his friends, who knows. Just wondering what RationalWiki's procedure about this is. I think most people would vote to keep it but that said if there is a request and the person wants to point their argument across I am not against them doing that. Anti-eugenicist (talk) 00:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Unless you personally feel that an AfD is warranted, you'd be advised not to initiate one based on some anonymous internet slob. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 00:17, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Part of the email (most of it):

Dear RationalWiki,

I was a regular on The Unz Review who used to know Karlin and comment on his blog.

Karlin has requested his article to be deleted. He claims he has changed his political views and is no longer right-wing (“rightoid” to use his terminology) but is now left-wing on many issues and a liberal bordering on anarchy. He now supports LGBT rights, open borders, legalising all drugs, multiculturalism and opposes nation states for network states (without borders).

Neither myself nor Karlin believes RationalWiki currently reflects his current views (which he changed over the past 6-11 months) having written a series of articles on his website titled “Intellectual Restructuring” on 31 December 2023. Karlin says he still supports eugenics but only voluntary and support for embryo selection. This can hardly be described as right-wing or extreme since surveys show a large percentage of the population favours such reproductive technology.

Why should RationalWiki now have a page about a liberal or progressive?

My 2¢ on this: Karlin is a flip-flopper who erratically claims to change his politics/ideology every few months and then whines if someone documents previous viewpoints and beliefs he says he has given up or renounced. He seems to have vacillating ideological affiliations like Baked Alaska. Despite claiming to have given up his "dissident right" views, he still obviously retains many of them as the page documents. Is there any reliable evidence he is not far-right anymore? Not really. Trolling on X by spamming he supports "gay parades!""globohomo" and is now a "proud multiculturalist" is rather stupid and I don't think anyone takes it serious. He also is not even original with this trolling since Richard Hanania and Richard Spencer are doing it. Karlin is still heavily involved with white supremacists and regularly comments on Aporia Magazine. If you want to be taken seriously as no longer being a "rightoid" or racist you shouldn't spend your time on white nationalist blogs. Anti-eugenicist (talk) 19:20, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

So, this request is coming third-hand, no less. Just because someone changes their views, even if authentically which is very doubtful in this case, it does not entitle the person to erase their public past history. Karlin would be best off returning to his natal land (i.e., self-deport), where his work as a tireless propagandist will be better accepted. Also, I hear that ex-McDonalds in Moscow has openings where he an get in on a ground-floor position. Bongolian (talk) 19:29, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm no longer going to be editing the page beyond this weekend. Am bored with it and I don't believe an AfD is worth the time now (most would vote keep). Some final edits to the page can cover his recent support for cryonics and 'human immortal' quackery (he's now attending events like Vitalia and as of this month attended another radical life extension conference in Berlin). Cryogenics at best is speculative fringe science and at worst pseudoscience. I guess Karlin is a good example of crank magnetism. Anti-eugenicist (talk) 20:48, 16 November 2024 (UTC)