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UNZ Review[edit]

Anatoly Karlin Archive

He's published over a thousand blog posts on UNZ Review. Lots more of his crazy views can be added to article. SkepticDave (talk) 03:31, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the hagiography, there's a convenient summary of my work here if you need further ideas. Here's one suggestion: A few months ago I wrote what is possibly the most comprehensive exposition of IQ research in Russian for the website Sputnik and Pogrom. The Marxist blogger Louis Proyect quotably describes me as "too nationalistic for Putin" ("wrote for “Sputnik & Pogrom”, an ultra-nationalist website that was even too much for Putin based on the evidence of it being shut down on July 6th [actually it was blocked, not shut down]. In 2015 the website called for “crushing Ukraine” and establishing a “Russian ethnic state.”") --Akarlin (talk) 11:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
According to your bio, you've lived most your life as an immigrant in UK, and you also lived in the US, but returned to Russia in 2016. Yet according to your UNZ Review posts, you're anti-immigration/want very tight immigration controls... Hypocrite much? Like Richard Spencer, are you pro-immigration/freedom of movement for "white people" across European countries/national borders, just not "non-whites"? This would mean you're not even an ultra/ethnic nationalist, but an Americanized pan-European ("white") nationalist kook like Spencer, who supports the EU and is anti-Brexit. I found it amusing reading your blog post about London, that you complain about the city having "too much vibrant diversity"- when as an immigrant for many years -you were a part of this (you're not ethnically/native English). Brexit was a response to the fact most English (and to a lesser extent Welsh) are fed up with high-levels of EU immigration, especially from eastern-European countries. So how exactly does your "Russian ethnic state" claptrap make sense, when you lived most your life as an immigrant in foreign lands?SkepticDave (talk) 16:22, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Sure, I went to the UK when I was six - hardly my own choice at that age, at a time when Russia was getting raped by slavishly pro-Western neoliberal scumbags - went to school there, to university in the US, then went back to Russia once financially independent. So I am actually nothing but consistent. That said, if there absolutely has to be substantial immigration, it would make sense to have it come from predominantly high-IQ, non-Islamic countries (that is, Europeans and East Asians). --Akarlin (talk) 20:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
If you look at immigration surveys: people who are anti-immigration (strong border controls & large reductions in numbers of immigrants), do so primarily because of two reasons: overcrowding (especially countries with high-population densities) and fear of economic competition, i.e. immigrants taking jobs. These are legitimate concerns, mainly the first. What is not, is 'race and IQ' nonsense - confined to the alt-right/"HBD" lunatic-fringe of politics. Virtually no-one opposes immigration because of IQ/race and this is why the alt-right you're so fond of, has no political power or representation: its an internet movement for Nazi keyboard warriors that are laughed at by 99.99% of the ordinary public. There are no alt-right political parties, and never will be. And if you, or Spencer, stood in an election, putting out a leaflet with your race and IQ nonsense, you wouldn't get 5 votes. While there has been a rise in 'populist' parties by country across Europe that want a sharp decrease in immigration levels, none of these promote the idiotic "HBD" thing. Their failure though to take power is because they focus too much on Islam or culture; Le Pen lost the 2017 presidential election because her anti-immigration rhetoric was still xenophobic and anti-Islam. I'm puzzled that you have a degree in politics, and yet are for something so ridiculous; you apparently have no idea about electioneering or electoral strategy. SkepticDave (talk) 01:02, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
My degree is in Political Economy, not Politics, to be strict. I am not interested in electioneering. I am primarily interested in understanding how the world works, and sharing my ideas with people. If that leads to more realistic and ultimately humane policies, that's great. --Akarlin (talk) 10:39, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Response[edit]

Here: RationalWiki Hagiography. --Akarlin (talk) 21:08, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

I've applied most of the proposed changes I could, but the part about being Mecha Hitler sounds far too tongue-in-cheek so I left it out. For voting for the Jews despite having views on the contrary, keep in mind the friend argument. БaбyЛuigiOнФire(T|C) 21:56, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
He isn't voting for a Jew, but Vladimir ZhirinovskyWikipedia's W.svg who has partial Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry, but doesn't practice Judaism and has made anti-Semitic statements. Zhirinovsky is most infamous for telling his aides to rape a pregnant journalist. Mind-boggling why anyone would vote for him, but he's expected to come second in the presidential election 2018, hoovering up protest votes by those fed up with Putin.SkepticDave (talk) 23:45, 3 February 2018 (UTC)