Talk:Doug Rokke

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Using it as ammo...

Using it as ammo for the purpose disposing of the material would probably be one of the most expensive wastes of resources in the history of man (manufacturing, shipping, starting wars, and shooting it at people). Compared to just dumping it in a cave somewhere.

Actually, the claim has some logic to it. If you need to "just dump it in a cave somewhere", you'll need to build a repository, guard it, make sure that it doesn't leak into the water supply, etc., all of which will cost you money. If, on the other hand, you are paid to manufacture stuff out of it (or someone buys it from you to manufacture stuff out of it), you are making a profit from a by-product. The "manufacturing, shipping, starting wars, and shooting it at people" is paid for by the government, not by the mining/enrichment companies. Of course, the fact that selling it is profitable does not justify the claim that this is the reason weapons are made of it - the reason is in its physical properties (density is not the only one, AFAIK).--ZooGuard (talk) 19:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Maybe, I'm not sure I agree. The cost of storage for all nuclear waste in the US according to the Nuclear Energy Institute has been about $10.8 billion since 1983 (28 years of storage). The cost of the first Gulf War to the US alone was $61.1 billion. Pile the on all the other wars, and that seems like an insane waste just to get rid of depleted uranium. This is not an extremely common material to begin with as in one year 50,572 tons of uranium is mined (all types), compared to 3.8 million tons mined of lead, and 2.24 billion tons of iron. Especially for low level alpha producing processing byproduct. Since this "New World Order" owns the government and all businesses according to this nut, they would just be paying themselves for it.

Otherwise, you are right...ammunition is not only density. The self sharpening and pyrotechnic properties help, but I didn't want to rehash the depleted uranium page.~ Subsound ~ 19:59, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Excellent Weapon

Du isn't used in weapons as a clever method of disposal, it is used because it can take out tanks better than HE. ^{— Unsigned, by: 71.71.87.169 / talk / contribs}

Boys and their toys. PintOfStout Talk Do you think expletives make you look intelligent? I dunno. Do you think being self righteous makes you look like a prick? 23:46, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

BoN is correct. Ty^{Bother me} 02:57, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

First Hand Documentation Obtained by FOIA

I am the only person who has requested Rokke's military records (I got 26 pages), University of Illinois records, he was a Physical Science Technical Assistant, Joliet Police Department (he was very briefly a Criminalist trainee - his claim is that he is a forensic scientist and I would like to collaborate with your writers on improving the quality of this article, which seems a little more tongue in cheek than factual. Write to me at DUStory (created to post Rokke's records) dash owner at Yahoo Groups dot com. Rokke has had an enormous impact on what I have called the anti-depleted uranium jihad and I would really like to show all of the aspects of his influence and what he says vice what the facts actually show. For example, Rokke was never part of the 3rd Army anything. His initial assignment in Saudi Arabia was with the 12th Medical Detachment (Preventive Medicine); during this assignment he taught about one hour of a class on Nuclear Biological and Chemical (NBC) awareness and this class was organized by a Lt Col Bauer. Rokke claims that this was "Bauer's Raiders" and claims to have even written some sort of treatsie for his Army Reserve unit at Fort Sheridan after the Gulf War. Recent variants claim that Bauer's Raiders were formed by a general who did not become Surgeon General until after the Gulf War and who was not deployed to Southwest Asia. In videos, Rokke claims that a number of soldiers shown in photos are dead or dying and that he was told that he was "hot" from being exposed to DU. That is all fantasy, but in order to disprove it, one must first find out the name of each soldier in the photographs. That will take quite a bit of work and soldiers are dying. Rokke is 62 years old and some of those who were his superiors are even older or now deceased. Again, write to me - Roger DUStory dash owner at yahoo groups dot com.

Get Serious

Norway is about to join wit the US sending forces or personnel to Iraq to fight the ISIS that the US has created.

If someone thinks Depleted Uranium is a bit of a giggle then I suggest they enlist and go to Iraq themselves. Our norwegian personnel will be dragging that crap back to Norway and I don't appreciate that an article ridiculing Dr Doug Rokkes work is at the top of the list for searches when we try to conduct a serious debate here in Norway.

Is this site only edited by juveniles or is it a shill page for the MIC (the military industrial complex) Pentagon, CIA and the US warmongering apparatus? 84.208.233.37 (talk) 13:18, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

The nice thing about being anonymous is that you don't have to really be held accountable for this kind of attack. You really have no idea of what you are talking about. Douglas Lind Rokke is a fraud. He has performed no graduate level research into depleted uranium. He did not know that depleted uranium existed before he reported to Saudi Arabia in 1990. He has falsely claimed to have been ordered from his Physic Laboratory at the University of Illinois by General Schwartzkopf to clean up the Army's DU mess. He was ordered to active duty as a filler-officer for the Army Reserve Medical Detachment in Beloit, Wisconsin that was responsible for sanitation and other aspects of "preventive medicine" in Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War. The orders are posted at the Internet Archive at http://www.archive.org/details/Pre-gulfWar12Dec1990LtrAboutDepletedUranium and his military career is posted at http://www.archive.org/details/DougRokkesMilitaryCareer1967-1998 . These and other documents were obtained under the Freedom of Information Act after I made two requests. ^{— Unsigned, by: 208.106.32.145 / talk / contribs}

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