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Enjoy your stay. If you have any questions or problems with other editors, just turn to me. I'm the leader here. --Idiot number 57 (talk) 15:00, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- The RationalWiki:Saloon_bar is the place for chat. And Welcome.--BobSpring is sprung! 19:50, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Hey kid, here's some matches[edit]
You probably won't burn the place down.
(We really do hand these out like candy.) - David Gerard (talk) 01:26, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Wait, Should I be saying thanks or begging for forgiveness? :-p I really just like to hang out and just mock the nutters in life!
~ Subsound ~ (talk) 01:43, 1 August 2010 (UTC)Subsound
Resveratrol[edit]
Nice one! - David Gerard (talk) 21:55, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of Total Bastard[edit]
Ello there. Total Bastard has been flagged for deletion, and the general consensus (see the article talk page) is leaning towards a swift death. Did you want to move it to essay space or something along those lines before it's deleted? Concernedresident omg!!! ponies!!! 23:11, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Welfare Queen[edit]
Good edit to that article :) 
EXTERMINATE 19:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Melt up[edit]
Hiya. Can you please link some terms in that article to other pages on the wiki, and link at least one other page on the wiki to that article? Many thanks. P-Foster (talk) 17:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
References[edit]
Hey, interesting stuff in your Alex Chiu and Piers Corbyn articles, but try to remember that references go after commas,[1] as well as after periods.[2] ThunderkatzHo! 19:14, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Opps, my bad...I thought it was the reverse. I'll fix it in the future! ~ Subsound ~ 19:23, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Damn son...[edit]
You've really done the rounds on the economic crankosphere. I only recently found out about Shadowstats when some Austrian crank used it as "proof" that the data was fudged. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 04:37, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
- Nah, they are low hanging fruit :-) For some reason people hear "analyst" and I get to be their sounding board for all their crazy financial ideas. It helps me keep track of what loons are out there and why they are wrong. Hopefully it helps as a resource for those with strengths outside of finance to go to, partially so I don't have to hear from people getting caught up with these nutters anymore. ~ Subsound ~ 05:10, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes sense. I'm in psych, so I usually get hit with Freudian quackery. I started hanging around the finance and econ blogosphere after the crash in 2008 and saw a lot of these crank sites being linked (I'd hate to see what's the "high-hanging fruit"), but the Austrians are by far the worst. Especially Peter Schiff. I think I'll chew my own face off if I see another "Peter Schiff was right!" video. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 05:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
- I wish they would roll up all his outrageous predictions to slap him around with them, but it would be so big I think it might do some serious damage. It seems like people are so scared of finance they follow whatever person is telling them what they want to hear, instead of learning about it themselves or even the history of their new idol. Sane moderate analysts are shouted down when they don't agree (I even had one woman spit on me). Then people wonder why they are broke.
- I would consider high hanging fruit as reports that are actually sane, but wrong. With analysts the devil is in the details. The Austrians are dead wrong about most things, but it has led inquires into behavioral economics questions I think are important. Many cranks seem to gravitate towards it because of the free agents and disdain for models, but know so little about it they usually wet themselves when asked even basic questions. ~ Subsound ~ 16:41, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
- There is the 12-part Peter Schiff was wrong series, which is handy. I agree that the Austrians were stopped clocks on homo economicus -- at first, I was attracted to the Austrian stuff because of that, then I went "Well, this makes a lot of sense and all, but is there any, you know, actual data and stats?" Then you find out there isn't and that a good deal of it is based on "praxeological" ass-pulls. Fortunately, behavioral econ has taken a scientific approach. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 19:34, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
- Very true. Once they went from theoretical postulations to pretending to be a real branch, a good number of people dove off the sanity train. I love that series, I need to finish it up. The comments just make it! ~ Subsound ~ 20:50, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- There is the 12-part Peter Schiff was wrong series, which is handy. I agree that the Austrians were stopped clocks on homo economicus -- at first, I was attracted to the Austrian stuff because of that, then I went "Well, this makes a lot of sense and all, but is there any, you know, actual data and stats?" Then you find out there isn't and that a good deal of it is based on "praxeological" ass-pulls. Fortunately, behavioral econ has taken a scientific approach. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 19:34, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes sense. I'm in psych, so I usually get hit with Freudian quackery. I started hanging around the finance and econ blogosphere after the crash in 2008 and saw a lot of these crank sites being linked (I'd hate to see what's the "high-hanging fruit"), but the Austrians are by far the worst. Especially Peter Schiff. I think I'll chew my own face off if I see another "Peter Schiff was right!" video. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 05:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
New webshite for ya[edit]
This looks like a clone of Economic Collapse Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 18:10, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- Oh god, it is! The contact page states it is the same guy, along with The Most Important News. He even has a Stumpleupon with a user name of Mathew517. I guess people are starting to figure out how insane the first one is, so he's had to change the name and repost all the articles. He also posted a statement of faith as well, describing his faith as a rapture ready biblical literalist. ~ Subsound ~ 20:48, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- I had to add all of the new stuff to a page detailing Snyder, he is fast becoming a raving lunatic in more then one venue! ~ Subsound ~ 05:16, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- Heh, I thought that site was trying to ape Econ Collapse. I didn't realize the levels of batshit we were working with here. Speaking of webshites, this one often comes up when I Google econ/finance topics. It has Gary North and a bunch of goldbuggery, so I'm guessing it's probably the usual insanity. Dunno if it's worth a snarticle, but it'll probably give you a good laff or two at least. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 05:32, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- It looked like a copycat till I saw the contact page, which is all the exact same thing except his last name. That is a crazy site, seems like they have every extreme position that could even be thought up (bear/bull, deflation/inflation). It seems more like a barometer of what insanity is making the rounds, but those comments are truly epic! That's for sharing it, my wife thought I was nuts laughing so much...but I'm not sure how to sum up all that crazy. ~ Subsound ~ 21:25, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- BTW, have you been following CP lately? Chuckarse set up a new blog which he linkspams constantly. I posted this to the CP board, but you have to read it, it's just too awesomely, ragingly insane. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 02:18, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Not usually, they make me sad for humanity. That is pretty epic! I love the start as something remotely sane...then diverges quickly into padded rooms-ville. How can people like this function enough to make a sandwich!?~ Subsound ~ 19:22, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- BTW, have you been following CP lately? Chuckarse set up a new blog which he linkspams constantly. I posted this to the CP board, but you have to read it, it's just too awesomely, ragingly insane. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 02:18, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- It looked like a copycat till I saw the contact page, which is all the exact same thing except his last name. That is a crazy site, seems like they have every extreme position that could even be thought up (bear/bull, deflation/inflation). It seems more like a barometer of what insanity is making the rounds, but those comments are truly epic! That's for sharing it, my wife thought I was nuts laughing so much...but I'm not sure how to sum up all that crazy. ~ Subsound ~ 21:25, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- Heh, I thought that site was trying to ape Econ Collapse. I didn't realize the levels of batshit we were working with here. Speaking of webshites, this one often comes up when I Google econ/finance topics. It has Gary North and a bunch of goldbuggery, so I'm guessing it's probably the usual insanity. Dunno if it's worth a snarticle, but it'll probably give you a good laff or two at least. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 05:32, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- I had to add all of the new stuff to a page detailing Snyder, he is fast becoming a raving lunatic in more then one venue! ~ Subsound ~ 05:16, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Inflation[edit]
Know any good brief histories of how inflation is calculated? I want to read something that's not the BLS version or the Shadow Stats type cranks. Thanks. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 00:55, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not too sure really, I've been puttering around looking for a good one stop for the history...but it seems like too dry of a subject for a lot of people. I think the references off the Wikipedia page seem to have the least insane histories, but there's a lot of text to wade through. ~ Subsound ~ 14:59, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Stalkerish behavior...[edit]
Please don't go on fishing expeditions like that; it's just rude. If you have to be that kind of person, please don't post the results on the wiki. Thanks. P-FosterThe French Revolution was neither French nor a Revolution. Discuss.
17:04, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- If I was making statements that I substantiated largely based on the fact I was part of the organization, and I provided the links to the organization (with a large directory link at the top of the page) along with my name so people could validate that I am, I am not sure how it is stalkerish or rude to copy/paste between two links. I think it is part of validating credibility, and usually people who post those items expect you to do that...it's the entire point of posting that information. Just because it took all of 2 seconds to prove that the name did not exist in the directory from the links provided was absurd. If it is rude to expose lies from truth because I did the expected with the information provided, then call me very rude. ~ Subsound ~ 17:52, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- Okay then, you are very rude. breaking the fourth wall between real life people and their online identities, especially when there is so damn little at stake -- a few claims made in an infantile, obscure website -- is really not cool, no matter how little time it took you to dig up the information. Please don't do it again. P-FosterThe French Revolution was neither French nor a Revolution. Discuss. 17:58, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- While I don't see how there is a "fourth wall" between identities when a person posts all the information themselves so people may verify their statement...I think the rest of your post is completely right. Why the hell am I wasting my time on an obscure and infantile nook of the net period? I'm bored at work, but it would be better to take that time and do something useful with it instead of wasting it in a place that doesn't matter. Thank you. ~ Subsound ~ 19:47, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- Okay then, you are very rude. breaking the fourth wall between real life people and their online identities, especially when there is so damn little at stake -- a few claims made in an infantile, obscure website -- is really not cool, no matter how little time it took you to dig up the information. Please don't do it again. P-FosterThe French Revolution was neither French nor a Revolution. Discuss.
- If I was making statements that I substantiated largely based on the fact I was part of the organization, and I provided the links to the organization (with a large directory link at the top of the page) along with my name so people could validate that I am, I am not sure how it is stalkerish or rude to copy/paste between two links. I think it is part of validating credibility, and usually people who post those items expect you to do that...it's the entire point of posting that information. Just because it took all of 2 seconds to prove that the name did not exist in the directory from the links provided was absurd. If it is rude to expose lies from truth because I did the expected with the information provided, then call me very rude. ~ Subsound ~ 17:52, 21 July 2011 (UTC)