This seems pejorative
Thinking qualia is a nonsensical, incoherent concept isn't particularly radical. Even as a thought experiment it stretches the bounds of reason more than a bit. The tone of "eliminative" materialism, sounds like it's evil people trying to destroy the concept rather than, you know, rejecting its validity. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 19:07, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry if I made it sound pejorative, but it truly is called "eliminative" materialism. I created the page because RW has a page on reductionism, so I thought it'd be interesting to talk about "eliminativism" as well. I'm really interested in this idea, but the pages I found so far are too dense for me. Do you know something about it ikanreed? —Jagoe (talk) 23:07, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- I have a lay interest in philosophy, not real expertise. And I really just meant that the term for the concept sounds pejorative, like it was invented by some kind of radical anti-materialist, not that your summary was hostile. I guess that's wrong of me, because eliminativism is apparently just the broader philosophical term for what we'd now call "being a scientific skeptic", where you apply occam's razor to phenomena, and reject unnecessary complications from hypothetical or conjectured sources absent evidence that the known physical phenomena can't explain.
- the "objections" to it seem outright insane to me. It's not contradictory to believe in a concept of trueness, and simultaneously believe that that belief is itself derived from physical phenomena. I don't know how someone who deems themselves a philosopher could put those words to paper and not go "oh, that's how" 2 seconds later. The more I read about this, the more I believe this to be a really dumb debate to be having in philosophy. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 16:22, 29 November 2018 (UTC)