Talk:Genocide/Archive1
Thanks[edit]
Thanks, PFoster. That helps a lot. Researcher 21:00, 20 December 2007 (EST)
UncleHo...[edit]
"Genocide" does not just mean "killing a lot of people." Familiarize yourself with the fundamentals of the literature and then bring it to the talk page...TheoryOfPractice (talk) 02:51, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Tribunals[edit]
Would it be worth making a new section on this page to cover things like the IMT, IMTFE, ICTY, ICTR, SCSL, ICC, etc etc? Or maybe we need a new page for International Criminal Law in general?Pascal yuiop (talk) 16:47, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Hard/Soft genocide[edit]
The offical definition of genocide seems very vague, i.e. it might include
- Welsh schoolchildren forced to speak English and beaten if they don't
- any siege (where dead animals or starvation is used to wear down the city dwellers)
- neglect of POWs
- flower wars
- the killing of Saxons by Charlemagne (which would cost them a generation but was not intended to wipe out an ethnicity)
I think that renders the term pretty much meaningless. The above examples have nothing to do with "typical" examples like the biblical slaughter of the Amalekites commanded by Samuel which Saul refused.
Falun Gong[edit]
Should we include Jiang Zemin's persecution of Falun Gong practitioners? Like, does that count as genocide?Serocco (talk) 05:39, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- Well, after a quick glance at that other wiki, I'd say their treatment would come under Article 6(c) of the Rome Statute, "Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part." I think the main problem would be trying to define Falun Gong as a "religious group" as required by that Article. But if Buddhism = religion, then I think Falun Gong probably is as well. Do you have any reputable sources referring to it as a genocide? Pascal yuiop (talk) 07:44, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- China Uncensored considers it genocide, and they have very extensive research about just how bad it gets. They even name names, like Bo Xilai and Zhou Yongkang as some of the worst offenders of this persecution. A judge in Argentine considers it genocide. A couple of American Congressmen referred to it as a genocide while denouncing the organ harvesting practices of the CCP. Serocco (talk) 04:04, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- Maybe write something about genocide in the RW Falun Gong article first, then have it linked from here? Nullahnung (talk) 09:36, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- China Uncensored considers it genocide, and they have very extensive research about just how bad it gets. They even name names, like Bo Xilai and Zhou Yongkang as some of the worst offenders of this persecution. A judge in Argentine considers it genocide. A couple of American Congressmen referred to it as a genocide while denouncing the organ harvesting practices of the CCP. Serocco (talk) 04:04, 26 April 2014 (UTC)