Talk:Gish Gallop

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"Proof by Verbosity" is not the same thing as "Gish Gallop"

I am removing "proof by verbosity" as an "also known as" for gish gallop. while i see there is one wordpress site (the reference) that claims that the two are teh same, the wordpress site is wrong (not consistent with other sites). Sites such as various pages of logical fallacies claim (essentially )that "proof by verbosity" is when *an argument* is either too lengthy or loaded with jargon to be able to be responded to in real time. Contrast this with the gish gallop which is the presenting of multiple relatively simple arguments to overwhelm the responder in that way. The two are clearly not the same.^{— Unsigned, by: 86.171.205.76 / talk / contribs}

Why does the library of hate not count?

It seems like a pretty pathetic attempt to collect a bunch of out of context statistics to push whatever fascist agenda the author had. I don't see why it doesn't count as an example, especially since it's probably the largest collection on the entire list.--GekoNeko (talk) 21:33, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Besides of the Einstein example

Did anyone ever try to explicitly call out Gish Gallopers?--Max Sinister (talk) 06:12, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

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3rd-Punic-War (talk) 23:07, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Another De-bunking Warrior!

Under Abusers of This Technique: "...if you look at all the response/debunking videos to PragerU, you'll notice that they range from 15 minutes to over an hour long, because that's how long it takes to refute all of the bullshit in a single one of their five minute videos." .....

The "GutsickGibbon" channel on YouTube loves to de-bunk young Earth creationist (YEC) videos (Erika used to go to a private YEC school through her middle grades, but shook it off and is now a PhD candidate in paleoprimatology who also studies human evolution and is knowledgeable in the physics of how "a 6,000 year old Earth", and massive global flood a là Noah, are impossible).

Ms Gibbon brings receipts to her de-bunkings in the form of photos, graphs, math, peer-reviewed articles, and skull replicas. To rebut a 15 minute YEC video can easily take her 3 to 4+ hours. For her, 30 minutes is a short-short. But she is fascinating, to me anyway, and the time flies by.

She has also debated some the more steadfast YEC apologists, but they never learn from reality and merrily regurgitate the same lies they told in their next presentation. The awful part is that some of them also have advanced degrees, but deny their own education.

Thank you for your time, Golgafrinchin Ark B (talk) 19:40, 14 December 2024 (UTC)