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I invariably write with green ink. Oops. Evil stupid Phantom! 21:38, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Apparently Konrad Adenauer always used green ink - but this was in some way connected with German school headmasters using that colour in their comments (teachers using red and pupils black ink). 212.85.6.26 (talk) 17:16, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

RE external links: Glad that your like the colors on my homepage, as i really like distinguishing colors (which is one reason i like Firefox or Sea Monkey with the Colorful Tabs extension). And as i believe God made colors, and eyes to see them, versus a world of drab black and white, that is certainly not inconsistent with being a Christian, nor for opposing homosexuality on a Biblical basis.

But honestly what i find inconsistent with reality is the label "homophobic," which you ascribed to me (as it is frequently is to any who will not affirm homosexuality) due to my defense of Biblical teaching on it, which label seems to denote being driven by a fear of being one or becoming one, or an irrational fear of homosexuals. Yet which is not what is behind my opposition and writings, but which are a reaction to the proactive promotion of homosexual relations which are contrary to Scripture, and the inordinate and specious attempts to negate Scriptural prohibitions of such, and even to wrest sanction for homosexuality. And as can be seen by my other articles, i also deal with other doctrinal issues, in which area i spend far more time and energy than on the homosexual one.

On a personal level, i try to help all kinds of people no matter who of what they are, from Muslims to homosexuals, and with whom i also personally want to discuss things with if they are open to it, for if the Son of God died for me, how can i respond on the early plane but by serving others, including spiritually. But in which i am sure i come short, esp when i am tired.

Anyway, i thought i would post this here, assuming reasonable responses. Thanks Daniel1212 (talk) 20:58, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

I have to ask. What's halfway between a Muslim and a homosexual?Longdog (talk) 17:59, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Awesome copier nerdery!

Technostalgia at its finest.

Interesting (or not) bit of trivia: Until relatively recently most photocopiers and faxes used a green light to scan the image and as a result green ink would not show up on the copy. Using green ink was a low-tech way of preventing <ahem> sensitive </ahem> documents being copied by disgruntled employees or faxed to our... sorry... their customers. Notalotofpeopleknowthat. ^{— Unsigned, by: 92.40.231.209 / talk / contribs}

I remember copiers like that! Mostly from the seventies, marking you as an old bugger - David Gerard (talk) 22:06, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

'Certain shades of blue ink' also don't/didn't copy: something to do with the lack of carbon in the ink. 171.33.197.73 (talk) 15:45, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Are you thinking of diazo copies? If you've ever seen a microfilm (or drawing) that's blue then that's a probably a diazo and they have two advantages over the black ones based on the usual silver halide chemistry. One advantage is that the duplication process is dry and the other is the degradation from one diazo to another diazo is many times greater than a silver to diazo or silver to silver. On the down side diazo films are developed by ammonia which stinks the room out and makes your eyes water.

Diazos aren't a particularly great way of stopping the dissemination of the data on them because they are designed to print on to paper just as well as a silver copy but if you are a small family history organisation for example and you've spent hundreds of hours collating data, hundreds of pounds having it microfilmed and duplicated (which isn't cheap for small runs) and distributing them to all of the other family history groups at £50 per set you don't want the bastards making their own copies.

There are black diazos but I don't suppose you care and I'm rapidly losing interest. If you ever want to know anything about microfilm I'm your man. I'm particularly expert on the subject of how cheap scanners and CD/DVD writers killed the industry and my ludicrously profitable business stone dead... It's OK... You can put the violins away now... I've finished moaning.Longdog (talk) 17:50, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't think it's about diazo prints here. In the late eighties I worked at a company that still did graphite-on-mylar drafting, and had a print boy in the drafting room whose job was general gophering when he wasn't pulling prints past a UV tube and through a box full of ammonia fumes. By then the blueprint was passé; everyone used blue-line. There were also sepia prints for when you wanted a translucent "secondary original" copy that could generate further copies, often with markup or other alterations. Don't get me started.

There was a time in living memory when "non-photo blue" pencils were a common item in shops like that, sort of a pale turquoise color (or green, or violet) that didn't show up on xerographic copies and other similar prints. It was a simple color sensitivity issue. The only thing carbon did was make black marks that the photocopying process could see. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 18:37, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Don't get you started? Don't get me started on bloody translucent drawings and mylars... The nearest I've ever come to murder most horrid was with customers who couldn't understand the reason I sent their mylars back marked 'NOT SUITABLE FOR MICROFILMING" was because they'd been rolled so tight the only way to get them flat enough to film was using spray adhesive on the camera bed and I didn't want to f**k up a very expensive bit of German precision engineering just for them. And then there were the sepia prints and the muppets who couldn't grasp the fact I couldn't put contrast where it didn't exist and 0.25mm brown lines on a brown background were a bad idea when it came to reproduction. "Just do your best" they'd say and I'd spend hours doing the job myself in the evenings after the operators had gone home only to have them phone up and say "What's this crap? I'm not paying you for this! I want it done again free!". And that dear friends is how the word 'facepalm' entered the English language.Longdog (talk) 18:39, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

I still remember the smell of Mr Bosher's blue and purple banda-copied maps of South Yorkshire in geography class... :) Sophie^Wilder 18:51, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Mmmm aahhh. That is a horse of a different hue and cry entirely. I remember the smell of spirit copies in elementary school too, as well as the frustration of getting a sheet that had come late in the run when the ink was almost exhausted, so pale I could hardly read it. "Good old days" my ass. :) Sprocket J Cogswell 19:20, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

First they took the trichloromethane out of our class hand-outs and then they took the toluene out of our correcting fluid. They can have my xylene when they prise my marker pen from my cold, dead hands!!!!!! This is what's wrong with the youth of today. With all of their laptops, ink-jet printers and classroom PowerPoint magic lantern shows they're just not getting the minimum daily requirement of solvent abuse that made the British Empire what it is today was. Longdog (talk) 19:12, 14 January 2014 (UTC)