Talk:Ipse dixit

So I've created the Ipse Dixit page, which seems ripe for expansion. I'm unsure how to proceed, having little experience editing Wiki pages. Also, some suggested real life examples of Ipse Dixitisms would help.^{— Unsigned, by: 98.218.119.25 / talk / contribs}

LOL

Love the footnote! BTW, I'm the same guy who made the previous comment.ShorinBJ (talk) 04:56, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Argument by assertion

Is this the same as argument by assertion? Should it be merged or redirected? Wėąṣėḷőįď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 22:16, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

In so much that most non-sequitur arguments are assertions, yes. But this is more like an "argument from authority" than assertion. But perhaps this could be merged into one or the other as a section, it's a bit short and esoteric on its own. ^bomination 02:17, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

The Fallacy Files lists it as a synonym of appeal to authority, Wikipedia has a separate article, wp:Ipse dixit - I guess the justification is that the article is about the Latin expression itself, including its history, not the fallacy per se.--ZooGuard (talk) 06:48, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea how new this usage is, but ipse dixit is ordinarily shorthand for "he/she is hoist with his/her own petard", using somebody's own previous statements against them. There is no way in the world I would ever read it as "I state this on my own authority" or anything even remotely resembling it.Essellar (talk) 10:04, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

The Ayn Rand example

I heard Ayn Rand IS basically Objectivism and her words ARE the final say on what the Objectivist Ethics are, since she was the one who made them up. Am I wrong? If I'm not, the example would not be appropriate application here in the way the article introduces ipse dixit. Nullahnung (talk) 12:42, 27 May 2014 (UTC)