Talk:John Ott

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As I understand, the difference between the woo-meister and pseudoscience promoter categories is that woo-meisters try to get people to give them money, while pseudoscience promoters are just trying to get people to believe irrational things. I don't think Ott really had much of a profit motive in writing his book/promoting his theory.--Krejtalk 22:04, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Some of the experiments/anecdotes mentioned seem quite interesting, particularly those related to plants. Perhaps you should indicate in greater detail the issues with his methodology and whether controlled experiments have shown them to be fallacious. DamoHi 22:08, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
I will; the article's a work in progress. By the way, I don't know yet whether he's a woo-meister or not, because I don't know much about his theory, so at this point I'm just trying to debunk his anecdotes. I'll look into scientific evaluations (if there are any) of his ideas.--Krejtalk 22:12, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
OK, well, I haven't really found anything on the Intarwebz regarding Ott's research. Info on his theories seems to be limited to sites like, motherearthnews,, and companies selling full spectrum lighting. I'm not really qualified to judge the studies in his book, and I've gotten to the end of his anecdotes. Apparently he also believed ultra high frequency radio waves from TV screens are bad for you, which sounds kind of woo-ish.--Krejtalk 05:45, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
I think, in my uninformed opinion, that some of his ideas are reasonable, but he veers off into woo land when he says you can cure cancer and arthritis by staying a few minutes out in the sun without glasses, and it's beneficial to get as much sun as possible at all costs. (Sort of like vitamin overdosing.) But what do I know?--Krejtalk 15:18, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


How's this?--Krejtalk 04:13, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Call for help[edit]

I've gutted the article, because it was written by a random guy on the Internet who has absolutely no idea what the hell he's talking about. If someone more knowledgable wants to restore the good parts (if any), feel free to do so.--Krejtalk 22:19, 2 May 2013 (UTC)