Talk:Juggalo

Weren't these the idiots who asked, "Fucking magnets - how do they work"?--Weirdstuff (talk) 22:13, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

They're the guys who wrote a song about a couple awesome/beautiful/wondrous things in existence and had a load of atheists take the lyrics literally, because "Fucking magnets, how do they work?" was obviously asked as a serious philosophical question about the nature of magnetism. >.> 141.134.75.236 (talk) 22:27, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm looking at the lyrics. It just looks like new-age weirdness to me. "Fucking magnets, how do they work? And I don't wanna talk to a scientist."

Sure it's just a song, but you don't think it sounds kinda anti-science? I see that they are trying to back away from that in the article you posted but in that case they are least guilty of a bit of an error of judgement.--Weirdstuff (talk) 09:18, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

It's a song about the wonders and mystery you encounter in everyday life. There's a couple lines that dismiss scientists, but why do you think that's there? Because the whole song is intentionally anti-science or because scientific explanations are seen as bland and technical, i.e. lacking in wonder, by the general public? 141.134.75.236 (talk) 10:26, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Then it starts to be like arguing about the bible. It quite clearly says various strange things. But then if some people interpret it to literally mean those things others say it should be read to really mean something else. What I see is in the song is: "Are you a believer in miracles? Do you have time for the miracles? Do you notice and recognize miracles? So many miracles, the magic miracles."

But even if I take your point, accept every possible positive interpretation, and understand that "And I don't wanna talk to a scientist" is code for "scientific explanations are seen as bland and technical" - then it's still badly presented and wide open wide open to a literal interpretation as people are going to understand that the song means what it says.--Weirdstuff (talk) 11:40, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

I've seen pieces of interviews with these guys and they frankly state they are very religious and don't have use use for science. I don't see why you are trying to defend them from their own beliefs. They have the right to say and believe so. Other people also have the right to think they are complete nimrods for doing so after standing on a stage full of displays and sound brought to the world by science. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 14:12, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Why make this an us vs. them thing? They're just a bunch of guys saying "Whoa, that's some miracle shit, yo" at random stuff that they think is cool. You don't need to be religious at all to do that. What I find so baffling is that people act like their song is meant to be a philosophical treatise or something. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 15:14, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

I don't see how I made it an us versus them thing. I don't even know what my "us" would be. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 15:32, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, whatever. The article is gone. Our IP editor seems to be a fan and perhaps he has a deeper understanding. Perhaps the actual meaning and thrust of the song does differ completely from the actual words of the song about magic and miracles.

Life is too short for much more from me on this.--Weirdstuff (talk) 15:56, 19 December 2014 (UTC)