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I need more on people being forced to either attend church on Sundays or being forced to close their business. I know there is more. Wasn't there something in medieval England, some sort of law, which mandated Anglican Church attendance? And I'm pretty sure colonial American laws were pretty strict on this subject too. Those Puritans weren't very tolerant.--Tiberius Gracchus.jpg. 20:04, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Hey everybody, I'm back! I've been doing some research today looking for examples of forced observance, but all I've found is this. Has anybody read this book, or can anybody provide me with better citations? I'm almost positive that there were instances in history where some nations made it so church attendance was mandatory.--Tiberius Gracchus.jpg. 22:43, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
A famous culture example would be the book/film Johnny Tremain, though it was written in '43. ТyYAUA 22:44, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Brx! ArchieGoodwin (talk) 22:51, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, Johnny Tremain was what I had in mind, specifically the part where he burns his hand because he was rushing in order to avoid getting caught working on Sabbath. But that's not really something I can use for a citation. It's fiction. I don't want to make unfounded claims.--Tiberius Gracchus.jpg. 00:27, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

This page needs help[edit]

What is the sabbath? Why is it the sabbath? What are the rules of the sabbath? The paragraph on Christians and the sabbath makes little to no sense as written. Pink mowse.pngGodotoi, putain, genial, merci 05:55, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

I've tried to explain simply that according to Genesis Sunday was the start of the creation week when god created light, Saturday was the day god rested. I don't see the problem. Proxima Centauri (talk) 06:27, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Your paragraph needs you to rewrite it, that's all. that's why i only commented it out, not deleted it. As is, it makes no sense what you are trying to say. I know you know what you mean, but you just need to clarify a bit.--Pink mowse.pngGodotoi, putain, genial, merci 06:29, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
You could also do with a cite to the effect that Christians do conflate the two events. Peter horas non numero nisi serenas 06:55, 13 March 2012 (UTC)


Do we need that line? The article is not about that subject at all, and it is apparently only mentioned because the words are related. Peter horas non numero nisi serenas 06:24, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

it really is part of the sabbath. Sabbath has long been "resting day" and "holy day" historically. there are buddhists sabbaths, and shinto sabbaths. Unless we want to relocate our article to be "christian sabbath".--Pink mowse.pngGodotoi, putain, genial, merci 06:27, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
It seems to be "Abrahamic sabbath" right now. Peter horas non numero nisi serenas 06:29, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
In my opinion, that's cause it was written as a stub, and the person didn't really know what sabbath was, or bother to read up on it before they started the stub. PC has added quite a bit, but only fleshed out the Christian part. I fleshed out the Jewish part a bit, though a whole lot needs added, since jewish sabbath is quite interesting or wooie, depending on your point of view. The original author did not even realize that islam has a sabbath. shrugs. we can rename it, if you wish. --Pink mowse.pngGodotoi, putain, genial, merci 06:31, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Nothing wrong with the name—I concede that didn't know before you said it that the concept extended beyond the Abrahamic religions (as worded the sentence is not clear on that, as 'holy day' could as easily mean things like May Day). What we then need is somebody who knows alot about that aspect of it. Peter horas non numero nisi serenas 06:35, 13 March 2012 (UTC)