Talk:The Economist

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Some things worth mentioning[edit]

Hasn't this magazine been criticized for style over substance and being repeatadly horribly wrong in their predictions, along with a weird hate for Sweden? ClothCoat (talk) 06:27, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

I put them under the category of centrist stupidity given how many articles we've linked to that show they can make horrible predictions (and our social democracy page hits them pretty hard too). I don't know if you guys think that's appropriate or not so you can remove it if you want. ClothCoat (talk) 20:33, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Good edits. The Economist is awful. --Eirik the Pinko (talk) 19:03, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
I still think we should be way more critical considering that sometimes taking their advice on economic issues can be about as as reliable as flipping a coin but I'll leave it mostly as is for now unless more people agree. ClothCoat (talk) 10:06, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Very Poor Understanding[edit]

I may be tad biased as I'm a longtime reader, but this has a very poor understanding of what the magazine stands for. In calling The Economist 'watered=down libertarianism', whoever wrote this was probably unaware the magazine supported Dodd-Frank, despite eventually criticizing it for going overboard. It does lean right on economic issues but supports regulations and trust-busting. It also did not regret the article on Iraq, it just thought the war was ineptly handled. The article also forgets the magazine favours abolishing the monarchy and the Hereditary House of Lords. But don't let facts get in the way of writing a smear article, right?--Harvardian (talk) 17:06, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Cool story bro. Sounds like more like traditional libertarianism to me...supporting regulations that cannot go too far in telling people what they can do, favors competition but not monopolies/trusts for "perfect competition", non-interventionist, and favors getting rid of autocratic (especially hereditary) authority. Words have meanings and history which when it fits that what it is. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 17:18, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
They support gun-control, regulations, trust-busting, and efforts to fight global warming. How is it libertarian? ANd since it was in favour of the war, it's interventionist. --Harvardian (talk) 20:17, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
To be honest, I haven't met a Libertarian that understands what they believe so I can't really point out exactly what is libertarian in black and white. I didn't understand Libertarians were for absolutely no regulations, wanting monopolies, complete disbelief in the science of global warming, never could possibly be for any sort of gun control, and cannot be in favor of war or they were something else (what I don't know). I've found that Libertarianism seems to vary with the group, or person, asked which is why the article here points out many different groups claim to be the TrueTM Libertarians and the other groups are heretics (paraphrase). -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 20:32, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm with the Harvardian. I've read them for years, they seem like more of a genuinely socially liberal (all the way!) / fiscally conservative (except when it's cost-effective for government to pay up) libertarian than almost any other publisher. FᴜᴢᴢʏCᴀᴛPᴏᴛᴀᴛᴏ, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 05:06, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, which sounds pretty libertarian...I thought the user was saying they weren't really Libertarian and "classical liberal". -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 20:07, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

1. They are pretty much pro-free market classical liberal while advocating for a basic social safety net. Also, they do not bill themselves as a "magazine," but as a "newspaper." Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 05:44, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

No. They are mostly classically liberal in terms of the market but advocate for more regulation than you think. Don't talk about periodicals you don't read. I fail to see the relevance of your second point. It's as if you brought up skateboarding. --Harvardian (talk) 01:25, 21 January 2016 (UTC)