Talk:The Turner Diaries

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I admittedly have not read the Turner Diaries, nor the Iron Heel, so I may not be qualified to comment. However, I have read a bit of Abbey, and I find his inclusion in this article problematic. Monkeywrench Gang explicitly disavows violence towards people, focusing instead on destruction of property, and it certainly contains no incitement towards race war or the lynching of 'race traitors'. In a broad article on radical fiction, a contrast might be warranted, but in this article? I can't see the relevance, except to establish specious equivalence.

Thoughts? TopOc (talk) 23:20, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Reading over the article, I was surprised by how well-written it was, and that section on precedents is no exception. The inclusion of "hard green" and other radical ideological dystopias/utopias is given for context, and carefully described. It is purely informative, and justifiably describes the Abbey and other books thusly: "All of these predate The Turner Diaries yet depict underground resistance, sometimes violent or illegal, and promote radical ideologies of one sort or another."
While I see your point - it's unfortunate to even be tangentially associated with this piece of filth by Pierce - the information does seem to be well within context, measured, and useful. The Turner Diaries does not exist in a vacuum, and comparisons with other ideological treatises are well-warranted, don't you think?
All that said, if you can find a better phrasing or have good ideas about how to improve, please feel free to take a crack at it. It looks great to me, but I might well be wrong.--ADtalkModerator 23:33, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Broken Link to the Book Turner Diaries by William Luther Pierce[edit]

The old link was replaced with a working one I fixed the broken link in the article to the text of the book. SissyMendelstein (talk) 05:23, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Did the person who wrote this "literary masterpiece" huff paint thinner?[edit]

He would of had to. --Rationalzombie94 (talk) 02:26, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

I would assume he was typing certain parts one-handed, at least. "Would have had to" BTW, dude. -- (talk) 15:06, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Possible warning?[edit]

Is there any box or something that we can put on the top to warn people how extreme the subject matter is? It gets pretty dark pretty fast, would be nice to give folks a heads up if they stumble into it unaware. Monochroma (talk) 01:39, 17 October 2022 (UTC)