Ditto

Is horrid. But they always say that about new things. (It's still horrid)

I do like that you can reply to people at levels though.

I hate it. This is a Wiki; whatever happened to signing your posts with four tildes and actually having to hit "reload" to see replies?

You have to reload to see replies now. At least now you can reload just the thread and not the whole page

Sorry I misread your reply.

You can reply at any level in wiki-lang too, just make the indent appropriate. I do it all the time. ħuman 17:46, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, so I hit "reply" to a comment four above this. That comment did not end up where I wanted it to.

I am assuming that one advantage to this ghastly system is that it avoids edit conflicts? I can't think of any others.

ListenerX already replied to that same comment, and then there were two replies to that. Your comment comes after Listener's, but the two replies to his comment are inserted in there... it makes sense if you think about it.

Barely, yes. I see what it did. But that's not where I wanted my reply to post. ħuman 17:58, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

The point is that it's much easier with lqt.

It is ugly, but it's convenient. You can use it on your talk page if you want.

The convenience I like. Can we fix the ugly a bit, throw some colours on it?

I agree with the number. But I'm getting a 4chan vibe from this. so please don't change the saloon bar.

There is a principle in design: "KISS," short for "Keep It Simple, Stupid." Deviate from this principle and things start to become Byzantine in complexity. But if we must have this, could the background color of the boxes be changed to be the same as the page background?

Using MediaWiki as a forum is not simple. You have to manually do indentation, manually sign your comments, you have to deal with unsigned comments, you have to deal with edit conflicts, and the database is littered with redundant data because with every comment the entire page is saved.

(ECx200000000) Hey. You would have edit conflicted me just then, so I am still going to complain about it.

Also, why do the latest replies get cut off when you reload the page, so that you have to click the link "Show X replies" every time?

Because they didn't want people going off on tangents. You're supposed to reply to the first post, not the previous one.

How counter-intuitive is that? This is completely ruining the fun of conversation here. It is as bad as the user interface of Mac OS Classic.

You have to keep in mind that this was designed for Wikipedia.

That place is SERIOUS BUSINESS, we want fun here.

Going off on tangents is what RW is for though!

I just replied to Nx' comment that says "Because they didn't want people going off on tangents." and I can't even find my reply.

It's here.

That can be changed - I think. Comment tower?

You can change it in preferences, just set a high enough value.

This is fairly simple. You see a comment you wish to reply too. You click reply and you type in the box.

On the other hand, with MediaWiki you could easily cut entire conversations to different pages, interleave your replies when necessary, etc. Also, you were forced to read any new posts to a conversation before you posted your own because of the edit conflicts.