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Autopatrolled[edit]

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Welcome templates[edit]

They’re usually not substituted. Christopher (talk) 20:34, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh, whoops, I know they are on Wikipedia and Uncyclopedia. --Gale5050 (talk) 13:04, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
We also wait a bit longer, one edit accounts usually aren’t welcomed until they make a second or third edit. The account you just welcomed is a sock of a banned user that vandalised an essay and was then abandoned, there’s a reason no one else welcomed it. Christopher (talk) 21:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Oh, oops. I forgot to double verify like I normally do. --Gale5050 (talk) 22:22, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Stop welcoming accounts so soon, wait until they make one or two good faith edits like everyone else. Christopher (talk) 17:07, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Well now I know not to welcome accounts with blank userpages.Gale5050 (talk) 21:53, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Yeah that’s a common Ken move. The real lesson should be to wait until an account makes a few good faith edits before welcoming like I said, insisting on doing things differently from everyone else is annoying. Christopher (talk) 22:00, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Generally I only wait for 1 or 2, but I do know now to not welcome users with blank user pages.Gale5050 (talk) 22:07, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Don’t just welcome any account that’s made a few edits, they have to be good faith. Creating an account just to vote in a controversial afd is not an indicator of good faith, especially when other new accounts have been created just to participate in the same drama.
Are you doing these things on purpose? Christopher (talk) 14:20, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
No, he made an addition constructive contribution. Wanting 2 mainspace edits in good faith is...much. --Gale5050 (talk) 16:05, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────It’s how everyone else does it, and it’s very easy to make one constructive edit with a troll/sock account if you want it to go undetected. If you’re the odd one out, it’s you who’s wrong, I don’t know why you still visit this site after it was made very clear you’re not welcome. Christopher (talk) 16:31, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Your right that 80% of others do it. However, just because I do something different doesn’t make it “wrong”. In addition I know they could be a troll/sock, I am assuming good faith which we should all do that they are not.Gale5050 (talk) 18:05, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

You may find this useful[edit]

RW:MOS#Linking to Wikipedia. Christopher (talk) 21:59, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Ah ok. --Gale5050 (talk) 23:19, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Recognizing trolls[edit]

The user you recently created a talk page for is an obvious troll. Such a username wouldn't be acceptable. You need to skip the interaction and head straight to revert and block/vandal bin. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 21:11, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

I don't think I can block/vandalbin.--Gale5050 (talk) 00:26, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Correct, you may only do so if you're a sysop. I think what LGM means is that you should just revert them, and make a sysop aware. Harry Potter (talk) 00:47, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
I didn't revert in this case, but ok. --Gale5050 (talk) 00:48, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Now you can block and vandal bin. Hope it works out nicely for you. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 01:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks.--Gale5050 (talk) 01:19, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Ages[edit]

It's more important that ages - even though they are only to within a year - are continually updated as time goes by. Scream!! (talk) 14:35, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

oh.--Gale5050 (talk) 14:35, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Joke block[edit]

As you might have guessed, my 3 second block of your account was a joke. On a serious note however I have undone some of your page protections as I did not consider them necessary, hence why I thought that I'd single you out for a joke block. :D Harry Potter (talk) 16:35, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok.--Gale5050 (talk) 16:46, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Blocking spambots[edit]

Don’t bother unless they actually manage to edit. As a non-tech you can’t see the edits they tried to make, so can’t tell if they’re false positives. Christopher (talk) 16:04, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I just know from other things spambots normally are indeffed.--Gale5050 (talk) 16:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
If you know for sure they’re spambots, they are. The one you blocked was, but like I said you do get false positives.
Whilst I’m here (not worth its own section), we rarely bother with block notices, just explain the reasoning when blocking. The templates you’re using are out of date, and it’s weird having one person notifying every blocked user. Christopher (talk) 19:26, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Ik but I like to inform them they were blocked.--Gale5050 (talk) 19:46, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
You’re told whenever you try to edit anyway. Maybe only tell the accounts you block yourself as a compromise? “This other person blocked you” is a strange message to receive, but “I blocked you, here’s why” is expected. Christopher (talk) 19:54, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
That is a reasonable comprimise. --Gale5050 (talk) 19:58, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Blocking obsession[edit]

In regards to your recent blocking of 121.200.6.169. What is "Convert to soft block due to possible collateral" ? And why are you second guessing other sysops' blocks? You seem to be obsessed with the mechanics of this site, not taking some time to observe what the typical sysop methods are, and clogging up the recent changes with a lot of meaningless administrivia. Please don't take this as harsh criticism; I'm just trying to understand your motivations. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 00:11, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Cosmikdebris, because we don't have any IP block evasion, a legit user may be operating from that IP. Thats it.--Gale5050 (talk) 00:12, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
I still don’t know what “Convert to soft block due to possible collateral” means. Your block looks identical to mine. What other alchemy was involved in your action that is different from mine? And could you explain the statement “ because we don't have any IP block evasion” ? I don’t really know what you mean there. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 00:58, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
I meant "exemption", now I am trying to take a wikibreak here. --Gale5050 (talk) 01:00, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Uh, so what is "IP block evasion exemption" ? And what is “Convert to soft block due to possible collateral” ? —cosmikdebris talk stalk 01:12, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
IPBE allows a logged in user to bypass an unrelated hard block on their IP.--Gale5050 (talk) 01:14, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
A difference can be seen in the log. Gale5050's block includes "anonymous users only" (just like Bongolian's block some days earlier), while cosmikdebris' block didn't. --ApooftGnegiol (talk) 01:32, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Stop telling users they've been blocked[edit]

We don't do that here. If we did, we'd have a handy template for it. There's really no need for it. Those users will know they've been blocked when they log in. A lot of the type of users that get short term blocks here would only see the messages you left on their talk pages as badges of honour and then try to behave even worse afterwards. You are, in effect, feeding the trolls. And telling other users which sysop blocked them is not only unnecessary, since the user can see that in the block record, it just looks like an open invitation to harass the one who did the blocking. Please stop. Spud (talk) 00:27, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Relevant thread[edit]

Hi Gale5050,

You may want to read this thread: RationalWiki_talk:All_things_in_moderation#Unclescrooge

Take care, Celeste (talk) 02:25, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments/notes[edit]

Please be careful not to insert notes as a regular reference. Notes formatting should look like this <ref group=notes></ref>. Thanks! Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 23:20, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Crap.--Gale5050 (talk) 00:14, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Tip: Use the {{efn}} template to add references inside notes and make the article look cleaner.The 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭 talk stalk 06:04, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Advice[edit]

Hello Gale5050, once again I've blocked you for a joke. If it gets too much for you, just stop blocking me back and I will stop, LOL. :D

Now on a serious note, I've noticed that you protected your talk page. I've undone that as it is community property and you don't "own" it (so to speak) and you have no right to protect such pages I'm afraid. As for your block of a certain admin, I've noticed that you've revoked talk page access. Please don't do that for a joke block, the user that you block could end up getting desysoped, and you revoking their talk page access would deprive them of the ability to appeal their block. Thank you. By the way, thanks for correcting my mistake in relation to my joke block of a sysop, I guess I forgot the rules there. Thanks. Harry Potter (talk) 07:58, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Protecting your own talk page temporarily is fine. I’ve been here for years and do it plenty, and so do others. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 12:29, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. Plus it was only for 3.6 days, and there is a mass attack. I will shortly create a non autoconfirmed talk page. Gale5050 (talk) 12:29, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, thanks for correcting me Duce. I was wrong, my mistake Gale5050. Harry Potter (talk) 14:26, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

You're falling into Unclescrooge's trap[edit]

Gale5050, you blocked him for calling you a fascist, which means he'll go around saying he's proven correct on the matter. You're merely adding more fuel to the raging fire. UShistoryanalyzer (talk) 02:25, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, I didn’t think about that. I personally am not too worried, nonetheless thanks for the advice. --Gale5050 (talk) 11:20, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Consider this a last warning[edit]

Stop playing wiki cop man. It's annoying as shit. I originally was just gonna shoot you a message but your talkpage is literally littered with this kinda shit. This is a wiki, at it's core we are looking to collaborate, not play cops on each other. If a user is willing to positively contribute and try a good faith attempt at asking things, blocking them over a technicality is NOT needed and is annoying and drives people away. Please don't have this happen again. Next time it happens you might see this stuff escalate to an ATIM case. Techpriest (talk) 16:33, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

How hard is it to act like a normal person?[edit]

I agree with your decision to unblock that suspected Ken sock, but leaving their user page deleted “to prevent further false positives” makes absolutely no sense. Your comment was phrased in a way that suggested you have a lot more authority than you actually do; remember, we give sysop rights to almost everyone. Christopher (talk) 20:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Would’ve let something this minor slide usually, but as Sirius said above this is the latest example of a consistent pattern. Christopher (talk) 20:26, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Scratch that. The account was a Ken sock, which is very obvious to anyone who’s been here a bit longer than you. Should’ve been obvious to me, but I assumed it wasn’t without checking his latest edits as Ken almost never bothers getting his socks unbanned. Christopher (talk) 20:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
I promise I am not a Ken sock, @Christopher. I know I was having issues but I am not Ken. There were a lot of false positives going around but I am not him. --Gale5050 (talk) 21:16, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
I never said you were a Ken sock, you have poor reading comprehension. Christopher (talk) 21:36, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Whoops, I read it in diff mode, @Christopher. --Gale5050 (talk) 21:48, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Sorry about my reading comprehension comment, it’s easy to misread things when looking at diffs. I’m suspicious of you based on your history on other wikis and generally find you annoying (going by the size of your talkpage I’m not alone there), but that isn’t a reason to be insulting when you haven’t done anything wrong. Christopher (talk) 22:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Ok,apology accepted, but please don't do it again. --Gale5050 (talk) 23:58, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Gale, Christopher just graciously apologised. Consider doing the same when users tell you you've done a no-no here and ask you not to do it again. I see you repeating the same behavioural patterns here as before. I mean honestly...just read the contents of your talk_page a couple times and imagine it was some other user. There is no reason you cannot be a useful member here who mostly gets on with users...but if you don't listen to people nor rethink the way you do things here...it's only a matter of time until you get cooped (something which is best avoided for everyone). ShabiDOO 17:48, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yes however I still don't like being attacked and also,I had a reason to do that. Also, one thing I don't like doing is having someone be unblocked and exposed as a sock and re-blocked, it makes me feel sad, hence why I do certain things.Gale5050 (talk) 20:06, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

'War on Christmas' edit[edit]

I noticed you reverted a change to the article. While it may have been a banned/blocked user (I had to read on who Ken is, but now I can understand why he's here.)

An AR-15 is not an assault rifle. An assault rifle is a firearm, specifically a long gun, firing an intermediate cartridge in bursts or with automatic fire. As the AR-15 is semi-automatic, it is not an assault rifle by definition.

Source: Firearms owner.

Good day. --A21 (talk) 20:16, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm not very good with weapons and accidentally made a false connection, all I used to do is play Fortnite. Thanks.--Gale5050 (talk) 20:55, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Sorry about coming off as aggressive. Good day. A21 (talk) 21:32, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
It’s ok :) Gale5050 (talk) 21:33, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

You’re still acting weird[edit]

What the fuck is all this about? Christopher (talk) 20:18, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

What if Gale5050 is a sock of Oliver D. Smith????????????????? Unclescrooge (talk) 20:21, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
They aren't. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:25, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
It's exactly what you told me to do. Anyway, scrooge, its gonna be a nice 3 months without you.--Gale5050 (talk) 20:47, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Whatever, fascist. Unclescrooge (talk) 20:50, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Gale, do you know how a bot works? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 21:36, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
kind of. -Gale5050 (talk) 21:43, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
A bot runs a set of commands until it's either stopped or told to stop. Spam bots will post on any available page given enough time, depending on their programing. To be clear, they're running a fixed set of scripts, similar to an animatronic in a theme park. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 22:14, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

I figure you'd learn the block tools but you're not using them appropriately. Just leave blocked users be, it's not hard. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 23:03, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Might want to consider removing this user’s sysop. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 23:06, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
To be fair Gale5050 did make a genuine mistake given that Christopher did say that talk page access should only be revoked if abused on my talk page. Can I please ask if this advice applies to LGM's advice applies to everyone then? Harry Potter (talk) 04:43, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@Harry Potter I don’t think it was a mistake, it’s not like he’s ever listened to me before. He disagreed with what I said (despite it being in the blocking policy) and wanted to prove a point. My advice applied more to blocking someone yourself; although I’m a big supporter of leaving talkpage access unblocked, I rarely fiddle with other people’s blocks to reenable it, it’s annoying. Christopher (talk) 09:01, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Fair point, I wasn't aware. I guess I'll learn that lesson for the future. Thanks. Harry Potter (talk) 17:14, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Your mop[edit]

I've taken it. I'm not giving it back either. Running around misusing sysop privileges on a whim isn't welcome. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 23:19, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, well, I knew it was coming. Bye, for real. Maybe i will try again in a few months.--Gale5050 (talk) 23:33, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Lol just take responsibility. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 00:23, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Good job GC, if you agree with Gale5050 then you're more than welcome to take my mob mop. If you don't, then I'll take it that you don't agree, and I'll carry on as before. As for you Gale5050, this thing about you allegedly misusing your mop is about you, not about me. If you have a problem with my alleged misuse of sysop powers then feel free to take it to ATIM or failing that to the Coop. I was only joking when I blocked the majority of people that I blocked, to the best of my knowledge they are all sysops meaning that they can unblock themselves. Thanks. Harry Potter (talk) 04:31, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Can you please oversight this revision?[edit]

[1] I didn't realize for a sec that I was editing under my IP. Absolutely nothing (talk) 20:57, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

No, you need to speak to an admin. However, you can ask at a sysop's talk page such as User talk:Christopher. --Gale5050 (talk) 20:59, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Done as requested. UShistoryanalyzer (talk) 21:00, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Shit show[edit]

The fact that you would rather delete the page rather than fix it (e.g., RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Archive 2021#Anita_Sarkeesian_.7C_Result:_Keep), plus your home page that simply states, "A user who just lurks RW:AFD.", plus your talk page User talk:Gale5050 that shows a shitload of stupid, together these indicate that you are just here to destroy and/or cause trouble. It's up to you to prove otherwise. Oh. Bongolian (talk) 19:35, 18 July 2021 (UTC)