Category talk:Social justice
Idea[edit]
Would it be a good idea to put the category Feminism into the main category Social Justice? Most of the articles, if not all of them, within the Feminism category fit --Drowninginlimbo (talk) 16:44, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- Possibly Civil rights also --Drowninginlimbo (talk) 16:52, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Identity politics[edit]
Is this category substantially different from category:identity politics? It seems a lot like they're treading the same ground. Wěǎšěǐǒǐď
Methinks it is a Weasel 11:26, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- I would say one is a subset of the other. - π 11:29, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Or both are a subset of the other. I've put both categories within each other anyway. ωεαşεζøίɗ
Methinks it is a Weasel 12:16, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Identity politics has to do with one facet of social justice. But social justice is not just about the legitimacy of identities but how society and established systems treat people based on not only identity but the status that often intersects with that identity. Example: solidarity with trans people and the legitimacy of trans identities is identity politics. But the homelessness of trans people, murder rate of trans people, income gap between trans and cis people, media representation of trans people, the legality of denying jobs or housing to trans people, and other topics are included under social justice. ±
KnightOfTL;DRlongissimus non legeri 12:21, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- It might be useful to take a page out of WP's book, on this matter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Social_justice ·Femilisk™ 17:56, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Identity politics has to do with one facet of social justice. But social justice is not just about the legitimacy of identities but how society and established systems treat people based on not only identity but the status that often intersects with that identity. Example: solidarity with trans people and the legitimacy of trans identities is identity politics. But the homelessness of trans people, murder rate of trans people, income gap between trans and cis people, media representation of trans people, the legality of denying jobs or housing to trans people, and other topics are included under social justice. ±
- Or both are a subset of the other. I've put both categories within each other anyway. ωεαşεζøίɗ
Cognitive bias as social justice[edit]
Why should social justice include the page on list of cognitive biases? From my view (I live in the world of medical science), I see cognitive biases as something that colors perceptions of reality, either scientific reality or the reality that good science can address. When I think of social justice, I think of things more like activism and remedies. One (cognitive biases/science) precedes the other (soc. justice), but I don't see them as subsets. MarmotHead (talk) 18:10, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- I did that because I think IATs and other related biases are part of the SJ mission. If you feel strongly against including that page, I'm OK with creating a new page for IATs and removing the full list. ·Femilisk™ 09:28, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think it's helpful to include such a broadly useful article specifically in the SJ category per se, but the list could certainly use linking from SJ articles. Maybe a new page for IATs (whatever that stands for) would be useful as well. Nullahnung (talk) 11:58, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- IATs are implicit association tests, they discover essentially what environmental biases have arisen in your subconscious. You can take the tests, but usually results are depressing. Check: https://www.projectimplicit.net/papers.html ·Femilisk™ 14:08, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- I don't feel strongly. I was just trying to figure out whether my knee was jerking from insight or spasms. Quick reading of IATs is interesting with how it correlates with some things, but not all that it'd be expected to correlate with. I think IATs could be a component of the list and a separate article. MarmotHead (talk) 17:05, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- IATs are implicit association tests, they discover essentially what environmental biases have arisen in your subconscious. You can take the tests, but usually results are depressing. Check: https://www.projectimplicit.net/papers.html ·Femilisk™ 14:08, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think it's helpful to include such a broadly useful article specifically in the SJ category per se, but the list could certainly use linking from SJ articles. Maybe a new page for IATs (whatever that stands for) would be useful as well. Nullahnung (talk) 11:58, 20 June 2014 (UTC)