Draft talk:Progressive Era
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What needs sourcing?[edit]
RBP put up the "needs sources" template. To me, this is all basic, middle-school level American history. Please list the items that need sourcing so it can be fixed. Jagulard (talk) 14:35, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- "basic, middle-school level American history" , so you are going to need to source any claim you put forward.--Owlman (talk) (mail) 15:41, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- Despite some evidence to the contrary this site does have some viewers outside the US of A. I am not the Ombud's man 17:51, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- Not to mention that such claims as the one about direct democracy being expanded are dubious. I know the franchise was expanded, but were there any examples of increased use of direct democracy, i.e. more referenda or more direct voting on policy issues by the electorate(s)? Similarly, how is "[t]he growth of American imperialism" defined and quantified? ScepticWombat (talk) 18:03, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- I am not the Ombud's man 18:23, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- Not to mention that such claims as the one about direct democracy being expanded are dubious. I know the franchise was expanded, but were there any examples of increased use of direct democracy, i.e. more referenda or more direct voting on policy issues by the electorate(s)? Similarly, how is "[t]he growth of American imperialism" defined and quantified? ScepticWombat (talk) 18:03, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- Despite some evidence to the contrary this site does have some viewers outside the US of A. I am not the Ombud's man 17:51, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, ScepticWombat, for some specific examples- that's what I was looking for. I am aware that many readers are not Americans, but I wanted to get an idea of the level of specificity. Ultimately, I think a lot of those items (like imperialism) should be handled on their own pages, not this one. It's still very much a stub, and probably should remain little more than a waypoint to more in-depth articles on things like direct democracy and prohibition. Jagulard (talk) 03:22, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- I think the Progressive Era is a major turning point in US history. Or at the very least "one of those points when history failed to turn". Thus a bit of flesh can do no harm. Unless it was butchered in Chicago, of course. I am not the Ombud's man 16:10, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hey, since you and I are the same person, do it yourself. I'm too tired today. Jagulard (talk) 20:21, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- We are? I did not know that. I am not the Ombud's man 20:29, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, Weaseloid has figured it out. Accept it: we are one, we are vast, we span continents. It will be difficult, however, for your brother or my sister, because one of them necessarily doesn't exist. Use cupcakes to break it to them. Jagulard (talk) 20:37, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- They are probably all part of the gigantic (((cover story))) I am not the Ombud's man 20:42, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hey, I like those triple parentheses. Maybe we could ask Owlman to use them for his "unobjective" sources? The Present King of France 20:46, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- They unfortunately have a previous use and association. I am not the Ombud's man 20:47, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- I know. I thought Owlie might appreciate the irony, given his connections to Mona and the whole Israel/Palestine kerfuffle. I'd probably get cooped for it, though. The Present King of France (talk) 20:54, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not in your shoes, so you do you. I am not the Ombud's man 21:00, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- That's not what Weaseloid says. The Present King of France (talk) 21:02, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Weaseloid knows what I am wearing on my feet? I am not the Ombud's man 21:03, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Obviously. And don't you dare deny it, or you'll be cooped again for abusing your powers. The Present King of France (talk) 21:10, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- I'll keep that in mind. I am not the Ombud's man 21:14, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Obviously. And don't you dare deny it, or you'll be cooped again for abusing your powers. The Present King of France (talk) 21:10, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Weaseloid knows what I am wearing on my feet? I am not the Ombud's man 21:03, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- That's not what Weaseloid says. The Present King of France (talk) 21:02, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not in your shoes, so you do you. I am not the Ombud's man 21:00, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- I know. I thought Owlie might appreciate the irony, given his connections to Mona and the whole Israel/Palestine kerfuffle. I'd probably get cooped for it, though. The Present King of France (talk) 20:54, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- They unfortunately have a previous use and association. I am not the Ombud's man 20:47, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hey, I like those triple parentheses. Maybe we could ask Owlman to use them for his "unobjective" sources? The Present King of France 20:46, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- They are probably all part of the gigantic (((cover story))) I am not the Ombud's man 20:42, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, Weaseloid has figured it out. Accept it: we are one, we are vast, we span continents. It will be difficult, however, for your brother or my sister, because one of them necessarily doesn't exist. Use cupcakes to break it to them. Jagulard (talk) 20:37, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- We are? I did not know that. I am not the Ombud's man 20:29, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hey, since you and I are the same person, do it yourself. I'm too tired today. Jagulard (talk) 20:21, 29 September 2016 (UTC)