Essay talk:Abolish the close-in-age exception

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You seem to believe that we should deny, cover up and repress any mention of sexuality or sexual desire in children. This will have to be accompanied by a removal of sex education and teenagers' access to contraception. The result, evidence shows, will be increased teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections.[1][2][3] A major reason for close-in-age exceptions is to allow children to seek advice and help when they need it, while protecting them as far as possible from exploitation. I don't find any of your counterarguments persuasive; yours is a classic slippery slope argument with all the usual weaknesses of that style of argument: "so-and-so might happen ... if we do this then we'll have to do that ..." all without any evidence. Annquin (talk) 13:48, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Jesus Christ. What the hell?

You are so blatantly missing the widely stated point of the laws in your "The key question: what is the difference between adults who have sex with minors, and minors who have sex with minors?" section.

And that point comes in two dimensions

1. The implied or actual power gap between participants is much smaller. A 17 year old has very little social or financial leverage to groom or push a 16 year old to do something against their own interests.
2. The ability to understand and appreciate consent is similarly developed in both participants. For the same reason we don't hold children to the same judicial standard for petty crimes as adults(an implicit lack of understanding of the full consequences of their actions), it's also necessary to include a dash of sanity with regard to understanding your own and the others' consent.

To drive the point home, using your appeal to universality here, I'd have been jailed and put on the sex offender registry at age 6 for indecent exposure, which I didn't understand in the slightest. This whole thing seems like a weird cover for pedophilia apologetics by trying to frame it as a "fairness" thing. ikanreed ^{You probably didn't deserve that} 15:56, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

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