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Essay talk:Dissolving logical fallacies

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I can sum this whole page up with 4 words...Argument from fallacy, bitch! Ace of Spades 03:24, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

No, that's an "argument from fallacy" fallacy, a.k.a. a fallacy fallacy fallacy. (bitch!) Tetronian you're clueless 03:35, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
I'll sum this up in 8 words...I didn't read beyond the first paragraph, bitch! Ace of Spades 03:41, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
I will respond to it in four words: The atheist was right. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 03:49, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

It's not just an issue of the female theist being not entirely wrong. Its also a case of the male atheist being really impaired in pragmatics. If one wants to change people's minds, the first step is to understand where they are coming from. Once one understands where they come from, if one wants to change their perspective, one can find approaches fine-tuned to their particular situation. I think trying to rationally argue people out of their beliefs is in a way very funny, given that their beliefs were often arrived at via extrarational means to begin with - the most successful way out of a belief with an extrarational origin, is not rationality, but something else extrarational. For example, many theists are theists for social reasons; and many atheists are atheists for social reasons. It would seem, that if a belief was arrived at for social reasons, the best way back out of it, is not going to be rationality, but more or different social reasons... Sometimes reason will be helpful in this; but I think for most people only the most superficial of reasoning, just enough to justify themselves what they are doing for extrarational reasons, is all that is needed. That's just honesty about human nature. --(((Zack Martin))) 11:12, 18 March 2011 (UTC)