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Are you sleeping at night?[edit]

How's fatherhood treating you? PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 03:17, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Yeah we have a good system. I sleep pretty well actually. From a science perspective watching my child develop is fascinating. Oh yeah, I love her and all that too. Acei9 03:20, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

How is it possible?[edit]

Okay, I'm gonna be honest here- how the fuck is it that you can be such a fucking douche- and yet so frigging likeable at the same time? I mean, even when you were calling me an attention whore, I was both angry, and yet, at the same time, I was just like "hahaha, that's good ol' Ace for ya". I mean srsly. Why? MESSIAH OF DOOM Impurity is the secret Dolan.png 11:14, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

My wife knows but she won't tell me. Acei9 21:48, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

This happened[edit]

Nutty Rouxnever mind 14:59, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Fuck Ministry, try this.[edit]

101.169.127.245 (talk) 21:47, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
No. Acei9 22:32, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
How about Fear Factory? They're probably my personal favourite industrial metal band. THE GREAT RIGHTEØUS DESTRØYER Deserved doom shall be unto youDolan.png 11:14, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
No. Acei9 20:34, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes. THE GREAT RIGHTEØUS DESTRØYER Deserved doom shall be unto youDolan.png 22:04, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Aside from having a soft spot for Ministry I despite industrial metal. Acei9 22:41, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Oh, fair enough then. Can't go wrong with doom metal, though. THE GREAT RIGHTEØUS DESTRØYER Deserved doom shall be unto youDolan.png 22:53, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Serious question[edit]

Ace, I got a serious question, so bare with me. Assuming the human species is 2,500,000 years old (verses the creation myth of 10,000 years), meaning the human species has 250 times the experience of living than creationists say, why is the human species still so fucking stupid? If the human species has 250 times the experience creationists claim, why haven't they figured out how to feed themselves yet and unemployment still stuck at 8%? The YEC argument seems more plausible in dealing with a host of social and economic maladies. nobsJesus loves you and I love you, but nobody else does. 21:59, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Indeed, 2,500,000 years of human experience yet there are still people stupid enough to believe in the creation myth and ask asinine, malformed questions like you just asked. Mind boggling. Acei9 22:36, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
You're right. I deal with Christians, idiots, and sinners all day. I forget I'm in the presence of geniuses at RW. You can understand my malformations, hopefully. Sorry. nobsJesus loves you and I love you, but nobody else does. 23:30, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Apology accepted. Acei9 23:34, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
*Genii. Sorry for that, I just hate it when people say "geniuses", and as the most important person in any given social situation, I had to point that out. No offence intended. THE GREAT RIGHTEØUS DESTRØYER Deserved doom shall be unto youDolan.png 07:19, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
You're doing it again. Nutty Rouxnever mind 07:23, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Since we're all in the mood to apologize to Ace, I thought that I, too, would like to apologize. It was me who accidentally knocked over your bottle of gin last week and dumped half of it out. I thought that, if I filled it with water, nobody would notice. I had no idea you would flip out and lose your shit over a liter of gin being spilled. Sorry buddy. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 08:39, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
I know I'm doing it again, sorry. Also, I was apologising to Rob, but yeah. THE GREAT RIGHTEØUS DESTRØYER Deserved doom shall be unto youDolan.png 08:50, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Relevant to your interests.[edit]

From NPR, last week. TeenageWasteland (talk) 22:10, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Very good. I have an original Steadman hanging in my lounge. Acei9 23:35, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

and for the gossip record[edit]

Olivia is the reason I left FB. I fully disagree with what your group did. but i fully, totally, completely know why you wanted to do it. She is a smart, educated woman, but in my opinion, she got a bit "queen bee" like, and enjoyed the "olivia will ban you" game, and it just went bad from there. 2-3 months ago, we dealt with the variety of positions (from MRA to just "is this really true") with some measure of discussion. then the injokes began, and it became a giant meme session. Though it is worth noting that even before the whole mess, when discussions about feminism happened on the FB page, they were often the longest, the most well argued discussions at all. So it really does drive people - on all sides. clearly. One tin soldier (talk) 14:52, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate it. Acei9 20:53, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
"Then the injokes began?" ummm what? Injokes did not *begin* 2-3 months ago, more just showed up thanks to some regulars and new users. Olivia wasn't even responsible for most of the injokes to which you are probably alluding (Hobbes, DoomPaul, Jimmies, Stalin, etc), so all it sounds like is you are whining about not being "in" on said injokes. Shout at the sky more old man. OGPUMadKomrade? (talk) 10:41, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
A number of people have either left or expressed distaste for Olivia now. But I bet it is everyone's problem. Can't be that she is a woeful, nasty bitch in the slightest. Acei9 21:18, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
In short, you must be a Trotskyist, because your jimmies are in Permanent Rustlelution. Also, U mad Komrade? OGPUMadKomrade? (talk) 15:46, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
And we have our Thunderf00t! - David Gerard (talk) 15:33, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
And he wonders why people think he's a misogynist. Sig can you say.png Sig gulag time.png 15:47, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
But surely, Ace is a fine and honorable man. That's why he calls a creepy, misogynistic weeaboo who reduces a rich culture to some sexual fetish "friend".Raysenn: questions other's integrity, doxes people. (talk) 16:02, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
And he wonders why people think he's a misogynist. If anyone could actually point to me being a misogynist it would really help because so far it is long on accusation, short on substantiation. Acei9 22:24, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Of course, we know they can't. But their accusations of sexism are their only defense in favor of their turning of RationalWiki into another 4-Chan. Except, to a large extent, the 4-Chan trolls are less vile. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 22:53, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
And, 4chan's memes are much less painfully forced. |₹Λ¥$€₦₦ Red rose 02.svg EVERY SINGLE MISSILE HIT THE TARGET!!! AAAAAAAAAGHH!!!!! 23:07, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
You two aren't serious, are you? You've been harassing users and spattering dick pics and other obnoxious crap since you've been here. Who wants to turn the wiki into 4chan?--72.201.14.142 (talk) 01:17, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Have I??? Proof or it's a lie. I defy you to show where I harrassed a user and/or posted a dick pic. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 01:29, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Maratrean ring any bells? Although you haven't done as much as Ace--72.201.14.142 (talk) 04:09, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
You've provided NO evidence. Futhermore, you are certainly one to call the kettle black. Do you not think I ever saw the server logs at RWW? You can quit playing your games, Brx. You're a goddamn vandal and a worthless troll, no matter how hard you try to hide it. You've been responsible for bouts of wandalism that were quite entertaining to watch, and you have the balls to lecture me on trolling? Fuck you, buddy. You not only are a hypocrite, but a goddamn bad one at that. You have zero credibility. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 04:15, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Hahahaha Brx once again exposed for what he is. No listen Brx, I have said nothing about 'turning RW into 4-Chan' and don't care about. I am looking for evidence for the accusations thrown down to me - namely that I am a misogynist who stalks people in real life. No pone has yet provided a single piece of substantiation. So fuck off you horrible wank. Acei9 21:43, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

You kiwi bastard[edit]

So, you're from New Zealand, eh? Well, I'd just like to let you know that we're gonna beat you cunts in the rugby this time. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to go ride my kangaroo down to the billabong at the Sydney opera house to have some vegemite and koala meat. THE GREAT RIGHTEØUS DESTRØYER A sea on earth is a sea of tearsDolan.png 10:32, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Ah, Wallabies... aka Springbok fodder. PsyGremlinZungumza! 10:37, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Yep that's me. Acei9 02:15, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

The dead eyes opened[edit]

I actually kinda prefer the remix to the original. You're into this kinda stuff, aren't you? GØØBY PLS Cermeneserm!Dolan.png 14:15, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

South Africa.[edit]

My parents lived in northern Johannesburg close to Cresta. Mother died several years ago and father died earlier this year. Sister still live in Craighall and brother live somewhere but I'm not sure where right now as he is in the process of moving. I'm from the UK and never lived there, they all emigrated in the early 1980's. Graham Oldusgitus (talk) 10:47, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Ahhh right. I love to visit SA - a great place (if you can get past the crime and corruption). I caught up with Psygremlin last time I was there. Acei9 19:39, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

The universe has no beginning.[edit]

For you: [1] What will Philip do if there is no beginning and hence no first cause? Sterile (talk) 16:47, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

(Sidenote: If that model turns out to be reasonable, that would be pretty cool. I'll have to keep my eye on future developments.) - Grant (talk) 17:10, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Interesting....Acei9 20:12, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Very interesting, especially for this long-time steady-stater. BicyclewheelModerator 20:21, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Opinions[edit]

Go one - I dare ya - say what you really mean!! ;) --Aloysius the Gaul (talk) 21:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Na, not here anyway. I was just ducking in to see what was going on in these parts. Same ol' same ol' I see. Acei9 23:22, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Please just stop[edit]

We've had more than enough drama here in the last 48. Users have generally been allowed to revert what they deem to be trolling on their own user pages. This isn't a battle worth waging.---Mona- (talk) 03:39, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

No, nothing had[edit]

But waiting until the drama happens when we are capable of heading it off at the pass is a fools idea. We've had more than enough stupid shitfests in the last week to have you causing some as well. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 05:02, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

mods don't dictate who talks to who so fuck you, again. Acei9 05:12, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
No, but You don't get to cause drama just because you feel like it either. My job as a mod is to stop that shit from happening, and so here I am, telling you to not cause needless drama. That you don't feel I have a right to tell you to not cause drama is irrelevant to my job here of stopping you from doing so..--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 05:21, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
nothing happened that needs your intervention. You don't have a "job" to do, no action is needed and you cannot tell people not to talk to others. So, fuck you. Acei9 07:05, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Want to be a moderator?[edit]

You've got a nomination. You can accept, decline or ignore it at RationalWiki:Moderator elections/Nominations. WěǎšěǐǒǐďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 20:53, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Sure, but I wouldn't do anything and am hardly ever here. Acei9 02:55, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Sounds like you would be perfect for the job. --DamoHi 11:01, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind, but[edit]

I've moved User:Ace McWicked/Schlafly Rearguard and User:Ace McWicked/Schlafly Slip to Conservapedia:Schlafly debate tactics. oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 17:59, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Ace![edit]

Good to see some old guard back! These new fags are nothing but whiny, whimpy drama queens. No More Bullies (talk) 21:23, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Seems like it, whomever you are. Acei9 21:42, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
I"m thouroughly amuzed at JorisEnter's suppression of a post con taining a link to a newspaper photo as "personal information". If that's doxxing, what is the artcles on Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump, etc? Are those articles not doxxing their subjects? I would have posted this on JorisEnter's page, but he has it locked like a little coward. University or Michigan (talk) 00:28, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
I think you misunderstand, "University or Michigan", your comments are being censored for being so obscenely full of whiny drama queenery. Why not step out into the world and do something useful with your life, hmm? 142.124.55.236 (talk) 00:32, 21 April 42016 AQD (UTC)
obscenely full of whiny drama queenery is not a valid reason to revery comments. Just sayin... Acei9 00:35, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
The rules are in flux lately. *shrugs* 142.124.55.236 (talk) 00:36, 21 April 42016 AQD (UTC)
I'm with Ace. Don't bother reverting if there's nothing private. Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 01:03, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Not disagreeing, but we probably also shouldn't be too bothered if a few edits from a repetitive vandal/disruptive troll get unnecessarily reverted. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 01:17, 21 April 42016 AQD (UTC)
That's not really fitting with the ethos of RW. Acei9 01:32, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
It used to be that way, sure. But as I said; things are in flux lately. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 01:36, 21 April 42016 AQD (UTC)
Oh just admit it, you newfags just can't handle things like the old guard. This isn't my first rodeo; same vandalism, different people reacting to it. Quarter Pounder with Cheese (talk) 03:09, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
So after all that time you're still wasting your life on crap like this? This is indeed distressing; I weep for you. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 12:00, 21 April 42016 AQD (UTC)
Goodpost.gif--JorisEnter (talk) 12:01, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Ken asked Rob to give you a message, but he will most likely delete it before it is seen[edit]

Message to Ace

RobS,

Please tell Ace that the slow moving godless Kiwis will be no match for what is going to be unleashed upon them in the 21st century (see: New Zealand and obesity and Kicking atheism, agnosticism and evolutionism when they are down. Why its time to crush godlessness like an aluminum can).

Evangelicalism is slowly growing in his country and the 21st century global desecularization will accelerate this matter.

The agnostic professor Eric Kaufmann told his secular neighbors in Australia: "The trends that are happening worldwide inevitably in an age of globalization are going to affect us."[4]

I hope this clarifies things for him. Conservative (talk) 13:09, 2 July 2016 (EDT)

How lovely. Nothing ever changes in Ken's world. He has been rehashing the same shit since he first popped up at CP. He obviously knows nothing about NZ as NZ has been consistently moving away from organised religion with Christianity now reported in under 50% of the population with a further 1/3 citing "no religion". But Ken will always labour under the same delusions. S'all good with me. Acei9 20:55, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Just a thought[edit]

Hey buddy! It is my understanding that we don't give out either {{welcome}}, {{unwelcome}} or {{meh}} before a new account has made any contributions whatsoever (the conclusions drawn in all three templates being based on "the nature of their initial edits"). Like the headline says above; just a thought - but I am steadfastly under the impression that we wait and see if somebody is a troll vandal before we dish out any template whatsoever. Just saying. All the best champ, Reverend Black Percy (talk) 22:59, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

what? Fuck off and fuck that. Why wouldn't we? That's fucking stupid and you should feel stupid. Everything about what you said was dumb. It's all dumb as if everyone and everything. Acei9 23:46, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
New logo large.png Your welcome to RationalWiki is lukewarm at best, Ace McWicked.

This observation is due to the nature of your initial edits. Pull up a goat and try not to make trouble.

We realize it is possible that you do not understand the nature of the site or our objectives.

Please see our guide for newcomers and our community standards to clarify things for you.

If you're still interested in contributing, please see what our articles are intended to be.

Reverend Black Percy (talk) 23:50, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
that's more like it. Acei9 23:59, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Answering you from six months ago[edit]

Sorry I missed your comment. The answer is no, I now live on the west coast. I wish I lived in Melbourne. I was walking around there last weekend thinking about how nice a real city is. - π 09:09, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Language usage[edit]

Unless appropriate/amusing/necessary each swearword subtracts 10 points from the validity of any statement, and 50 points from anybody's interest in what you have to say.

Current status - insufficient interest to be insulted by what you say. Anna Livia (talk) 11:32, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

then why the fuck comment? “I’m so uninterested in you I feel the need to remark upon how much I am ignoring you”.Acei9
Read the first sentence: and paraphrasing a recent quote which was paraphrasing a line from a TV show.
Do you only know one swearword - and are you aware of 'unfunny vandalism'? Anna Livia (talk) 18:32, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
I don’t watch TV. Swearing on a talk page isn’t vandalism. I’ve been part of RW for 10 years and know what constitutes vandalism. Are you seriously getting all hotheaded over the word fuck? Jesus mutha fucking Christ on a shit wheeled bicycle - are we not adults? Acei9 19:09, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
If you are an adult #behave like one# (or watch the 10 hour film on paint drying).
You have not won the argument with your next batch of swearwords - but the full explanation would involve an exploration of some of the more obscure corners of fanfic. Anna Livia (talk) 19:30, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
I too am confused. Is it not Ace's prerogative to swear if he so chooses? Does he not possess freedom of speech? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:34, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
"Unless appropriate/amusing/necessary each swearword subtracts 10 points from the validity of any statement, and 50 points from anybody's interest in what you have to say." Isn't that kind of a variation on the Tone argument? RoninMacbeth (talk) 19:40, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
fuck you, this is how I behave. I’m a 37 year old divorced father of one with a drinking problem who lives beachside in a small northern eastern New Zealand town. My girlfriend is in Seattle and I’m flying over in 2 weeks to spend 5 weeks roadtrippjg round the Western United States. Given all the above I’ll talk, swagger, sway, stumble and fuck up talk pages as I see fit. You ghoulish banshees will not restrict my freedoms. I’m making a stand for the little guy - time to rattle a few cages. Go get my gun. Acei9 21:18, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Hands Ace his gun ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 21:39, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Excellent - thank you sir. But wait, is this my beach pistol or is it my bedroom gun? One needs the right tools for the job. Acei9 21:44, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Swearing is most effective when used sparingly/appropriately/with amusement and a deft hand rather than in a manner that encourages people to bleat 'But I thought this was Rationalwiki!', and which leaves you no way of expressing slight annoyance or 'I am bigly annoyed, so bigly beautifully annoyed it would amaze you.'
Freedom of speech implies or even requires responsibility of speech (the 'not shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theatre' argument).
Snowflakes have points, and intonation can say far more than words. Anna Livia (talk) 21:45, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
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Yeah what the fuck right. Acei9 23:06, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
ŴêâŝêîôîďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 22:09, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I don't know where either of those are, I got the one you're holding out of the safe. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 21:52, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Anyways - I'm far irresposible to own gun. I'd fail the background check here in NZ as well as the mental health assesment and no-one who knows me would ever vouch for me to own a gun. I'm headed to the states soon though so might try buy one just for kicks. Acei9 23:06, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

(reset) To state that 'Excessive/irrelevant/inappropriately used swearwords annoys people and is likely to cause them to disregard the validity of your opinions and/or completely ignore you at best, and indulge in more negative responses of various kinds if they are or become so inclined' is a valid viewpoint (and an adult one as well).

Adult/responsive behaviour can lead one to interesting discussions and places. Anna Livia (talk) 11:14, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

ok, then fucking ignore me then. You weird fucking geek.Acei9 12:27, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Who is this non sequitur aimed at? Perhaps we - singularly or collectively are doing this. Anna Livia (talk) 23:13, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
I think there is something fucking wrong with. Acei9 02:31, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Well, I'm a fundamentalist, and if anyone should be offended by Ace's language it should be me. Actually, Anna Livia, you can go fuck yourself. :D What a Wonderful World (talk) 02:34, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm honestly more offended that Ace finished his sentence with the word "with" than anything else about his language. Ace, you chucklefuck. RoninMacbeth (talk) 03:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
'This is supposed to be Rationalwiki' after all - and it is not clear who Ace is being abusive to (but we will have to wait until NZ morning to find out).
'The point is - effective arguments do not need 'random swearwords' - and 'same to you with over ripe tomatoes nyah, nyah' makes me laugh.

My next comment would include [2] and a reference to the more obscure and colourful areas of fanfic.Anna Livia (talk) 16:34, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

While effective arguments do not need swearwords, his use of them does not make his arguments less effective. If Ace wants to swear, let him. RoninMacbeth (talk) 16:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
And effective usage of swearwords #can# add to an argument, comment, or joke etc.
The point being made was - 'words considered offensive' should be used to 'sting like a bee' and amaze others with verbal fireworks not be a nettle patch. 17:32, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────But that's not what you entirely said. You said his swearing made his argument less VALID, which is blatantly false. Can too much swearing make an argument less likely to be listened to? Sure. Does it detract from the veracity of his points? No. Also, assigning "points" to something like an argument on a wiki talkpage is stupid. This isn't AP Lang. RoninMacbeth (talk) 17:42, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

To a BritEnglish speaker 'AP Lang' means nothing. People #are# likely to consider arguments less valid if 'swearwords etc' are used (or even disengage from the context). Anna Livia (talk) 17:59, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Ah. "AP Lang" is an American class about use of the English language in rhetoric. It doesn't matter if people think his arguments are less valid due to swear words. Just because they do doesn't make it so. RoninMacbeth (talk) 18:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
On the other hand, I do think that excessive use of swear words start interfering with your message and losing their effect the same way if you overuse superlatives. It gets tiresome to read. I still think sparingly is a good practice when it comes to swearing. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 19:19, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Jesus god almighty, is this ‘’still’’ fucking going on? Shit man, I wasn’t even making an argument that could be discounted because I swore. This is amazing. Acei9 22:12, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Just to be clear - I am not against swearing where appropriate/useful/creative - but 'where you cannot see the wood for the trees.' Anna Livia (talk) 23:13, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
well sunshine, I’ll fucking swear wherever I cunting want to. So, you know, fucking deal with it. Acei9 23:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
have the emos finally infiltrated RW? Spriggina (prat) (insatser) @ 23:29, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
You're not referring to me as an emo are you? While it is true my wardrobe does consist mainly of black and grey clothing despite my girls insistence I wear more colourful clothing I would never consider myself an emo. What do emos do anyway? Acei9 03:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
I think they mope around and pretend nihilism is cool. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:07, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
OK, I'm extremely nihilistic but I don't mope. I swagger. Acei9 03:21, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
I don't think you're an Emo then. I'm fairly certain that they mope. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:22, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
The point is - we all know a range of swearwords and 'words that annoy' but some of us choose not to use them unless we feel it appropriate/necessary - and many people assess the significance and relevance of others by the language used (including grammar and spelling).
And remember for every person who suggests an alternative way of presenting your ideas that will lead to more influence there will be many more who 'deal with' your remarks by completely ignoring you.
RoninMacbeth - if people consider that swearwords (or other aspects) are making an argument less valid then to some extent they are right. Anna Livia (talk) 09:38, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
I got a couple things to tell ya - I fucking swear. I didn’t make any fucking arguments that could be rendered invalid by swearing. So, to deal with these two things that are concerning to you. Get the fuck over it and what the fuck are you talking about. Go the fuck away if swearing bothers you. Jesus fucking Christ man, you are getting so gaoddamned wond up about things you have to power to change man. Smoke some grass, practice mindfulness, jerk some smack - just do whatever you need to do to get the fuck over it. Acei9 09:50, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
The point is - people see the swearwords rather than the argument.
  1. You# are getting increasingly annoyed - and I have not used a single swearword: so who is more bothered by the discussion? Anna Livia (talk) 10:41, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Of course he's getting pissed, your trying to control his speech. If it bothers you so much get a web browser extension to filter out the swearing!!! I mean for mother-bloody-fucking fuck's sake people!!! It isn't rocket science!!! ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 11:06, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
I’m not annoyed. Baffled, bemused, confused, befuddled and slightly disturbed but not annoyed. You behavior is very strange - you hate the swearing but come here to talk to me when you know I’ll just swear at you. You’re a glutton for punishment, my man. A regular fucking sadist. Wouldn’t fucking surprise me in the slightest if you are sitting round naked with a car battery hooked up to your nipples so you shock yourself with every utterance of the word fuck. Hot damn, that’s it. Shocking yourself while hanging strips of raw beef from your ears while a Komodo Dragon circles the room ominously, occasionally snaking it’s rough purple tongue against your bare thighs as it draws ever nearer. Jesus fuck, that’s an ugly scene. Acei9 11:14, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
(reset) There are more appropriate websites for material like the last.
I am not trying to control anybody's speech - beyond the 'be courteous, do not shout fire in a crowded theatre and similar' level - but to suggest alternative approaches.
Do you mean 'masochist' - and 'man' does not go with my username.
Your responses do no more than amuse me (try reading some of the weirder outposts of fanfic). Anna Livia (talk) 11
27, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
The "fire in a crowded theater" argument is in reference to threats, not swearwords. There is no form of national law in the U.S. banning the usage of swearwords. Short version, you don't have a leg to stand on. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 11:33, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
yes masochist, thank you. I call my girlfriend ‘man’ all the time and she hates it too. I’m glad I’m amusing you, that’s kinda what I’m trying to do here. Rationalwiki has no code which compels me to be courteous to you or anyone. I’m just trying to enjoy myself. Have you never wanted to fuck a Komodo dragon? Imagine the fucking spawn you’d produce? My god man, half reptile, half human which lashes out in fury when someone swears in its vicinity. A perfect weapon of war. Acei9 11:35, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Political correctness Given form Ace? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 11:42, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
I was making reference to potential constraints on freedom of speech (which will also include slander/libel, some forms of name-calling and certain other behaviour), and PC is not necessarily involved - and bestiality is illegal in many countries (and would not produce offspring besides).
There are better ways of amusing people than trying to get a reaction out of someone who states they are amused by your activities (and who may be being condescending/sarcastic). Anna Livia (talk) 12:36, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
why are you still talking. I’m not going to stop swearing or carrying on as I please so why the fuck are you still here? Acei9 21:03, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Why not?
Consider playing Malcolm Tucker rather than continuing with Viz (magazine). Anna Livia (talk) 22:06, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
That response made no sense, please try again. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 22:08, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
well ok we can keep going. Acei9 23:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Malcolm Tucker from the TV series 'The Thick of It' (available variously) and the magazine Viz - the former has a more creative use of swearwords (and Dr Who played as MT would have been 'interesting'). Anna Livia (talk) 09:45, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Knowing what this site was like eight years ago, it is amusing to see people get offended so easily on here. I fully believe the clusterduck with Avenger in the election was a prank by the old guard that resulted in epic results. I don't think most of the newbies are aware that this site was founded by trolls. Oh, and to add to GrammerCommie's explanation of what emo people do, they do more than just "mope around"; they cut themselves and (in the case of Columbine, MSD, Santa Fe, Marshall County, etc) shoot up schools. What a Wonderful World (talk) 15:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
But my comment #is# somewhat valid - that excessive non-relevant 'language that annoys other people' #can# distract from whatever arguments are being made. 'It's a matter of personal taste and context' could be a reasonable response. However a 'slam-dunk insult' (which take a few moments to be understood) or a 'Sir Humphrey Appleby-ism ('You are being very wise (=very stupid) Minister') can be far more effective. Anna Livia (talk) 18:29, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
If you're into all of this seriousness, why the heck are you part of RationalWiki, which is into snark, cuss words, block wars, and mockery? I'm literally a fundie and try not to cuss, so I get where you are coming from, bur this site still isn't all that serious, it never will be, and trying to turn it into a serious site would be like trying to turn Conservapedia into a politically neutral site. What a Wonderful World (talk) 02:07, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Anna, please just fuck off now. You’re not going to stop me or anyone swearing and your point is invalid because I never made argument which could invalidated by swearing. I tire of your continuous moaning and bitching so take it elsewhere to someone who gives a shit. Acei9 02:55, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Goodpost.gif What a Wonderful World (talk) 17:17, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Like spices/flavourings and some other things, swearwords work best if used sparingly (especially if only a few such are used) - and know how to 'sting like a bee' rather than use a bucket of stinging nettles. I am not saying people can't or shouldn't use swearwords, but that they should be selective, preferably inventive, and know the art of the put-down.
I #am# familiar with RW's modus operandi - and 'calm amusement at the vagaries of human nature' can be the best form of attack.
Read the exchange and how various people react without my using a single swearword. But - chaque a son gout. Anna Livia (talk) 11:30, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Why are you like this? WèàšèìòìďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 10:31, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
@Weaseloid I like to think that this is all some kind of elaborate trolling attempt, or that Anna Livia is high as a kite. Both these assumptions help keep my blood pressure in check. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 10:35, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
Bear in mind that I have a British sense of humour/understatement, I could be even more obscure ('waxing the cutlery') , and RW amuses me. Anna Livia (talk) 21:41, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Glad to see you back, old friend![edit]

Pass the beer, mate! By the way, what the fuck is up with this Horsy Sauce, blocking for "Harassment" over a user page someone apparently didn't like. These people have become real candy asses. (Word to the wise, don't revert this comment on Ace's page unless you are Ace, he doesn't like that shit). What a Wonderful World (talk) 12:07, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

It's a long-standing troll who's been banned infinitely. He has a very recognizable style, usually making some offensive but not on its own bannable comment about making girls cry. He's vandalized pages and made tons of harassing statements towards users on this site. Blocking was more to keep him from continuing that than for just the rude userpage. Spriggina (prat) (insatser) @ 01:04, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
@Spriggina You don't understand. In the hey-day of the old guard, RationalWiki didn't block anybody, hence the existence of the vandal bin. If someone was an "unfunny vandal," they would be put in the bin where they could continue to engage the community but they couldn't go around blanking pages in mass or writing "CONSERVAPEDIA RULZ" on a hundred pages because they were limited to one edit every 20 minutes (but alternating between proxy IPs was a good way to circumvent that). Us Conservapedians, along with User:Marcus Cicero and User:Ex-Troll Cheerleader (who, unknown to them, was invited to mess with RationalWiki by me as an alternative to disrupting Wikipedia, and actually I used to participate in some of that sockpuppet shenanigans with her on this site), were the trolls of the day, and unlike the current leaders of this site who get offended over vandalism, the old guard would just mock us and laugh at us. I think someone even called Susan the C-word at one point, and she was like "please, is that supposed to upset me?" It wasn't uncommon for trolls to become sysops; I was a sysop, Ex-Troll was a sysop, User:TK was a sysop, and Marcus even became a moderator. So when you say "OMG, harassment," I'm pretty sure Ace just rolls his eyes and thinks you are a candy ass. By the way, you and @GrammarCommie are free to believe that I am that Elvis guy all you want, but I assure you if I were going to mock someone I wouldn't pick the very fundamentalist Christian denomination (Independent Baptist) that I am part of to mock like he does. This is actually what I've been up to on RationalWiki recently, which you can see is in the same network range as 71.208.106.249, my current IP. Not to bad for a politically conservative, religiously fundamentalist Conservapedian, eh? I was aiming to make the edits conform to the culture of the site. What a Wonderful World (talk) 02:01, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I mean, I personally laughed off the stuff he posted on my talk (which was fairly mild in comparison to what other people got), but he's been far more disruptive than TK and not even funny. Some users have discussed LANCBing over the sexual statements and threats he's made as well, and with RW being pretty small we can't exactly afford to lose all of the people who have been attacked. Don't really give a damn whether Ace thinks I'm a "candy ass" for caring about user retention, but thanks anyway. Spriggina (prat) (insatser) @ 02:12, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Don't really give a damn whether Ace thinks I'm a "candy ass" Now that's the spirit! What a Wonderful World (talk) 02:14, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
@Ace, most of these people on RationalWiki nowadays are high school and college kids, probably including the troll in question. In some ways, nothing has changed about this site, but it certainly has become more dramatic with all of the hormonal youngsters hanging out here now. What a Wonderful World (talk) 02:01, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
>implying we're more dramatic than ancient RW
Have you ever looked through the Coop archives? Spriggina (prat) (insatser) @ 02:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
True. I will also say, anyone posting threats in the wake Marjory Stoneman Douglas, Santa Fe, and of all of these school shootings and "if you see something, say something" is a dumb ass. Frick, I was afraid I was going to get in trouble for posting made up "dox" on pages two years ago when Pbfreespace3 was threatening to call the cops, posting threats is asking for it. What a Wonderful World (talk) 02:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
@Spriggina I have, they were quite interesting. In addition I'm (I can't speak for the others here) not so buch offended by the current generation of trolls as much as disappointed with them, and bored by their rather primitive attempts at trolling. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:25, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
(EC)(So that you're not left scratching your head, I was referring to a time two years ago when I posted something on a page as an IP two years ago that someone mistook for "dox" because someone else apparently had been doing that at the time, I thought their response humorous and overly dramatic because I wasn't aware of the on-going problem, so I started posting it all over the place, and eventually it turned into an HCM, and it was one heck of an HCM). What a Wonderful World (talk) 02:29, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
do I need to read this or can I keep drinking. Acei9 02:33, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I think you should have a drinking game, everytime someone replies you have to take swig. What a Wonderful World (talk) 02:35, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I'll drink to that. Cosmikdebris (talk) 02:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Drinking or dealing with life problems? Best break out the heavy stuff Ace. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:40, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Hm, I was just thinking... Do you know if Ex-Troll Cheerleader is totally retired from trolling here? A few months back, we had some drama regarding a user purporting to be a cheerleader, a sock of whom (according to the "sock"'s story, at least) had been being a bit disruptive, calling for genocide etc. I figured it was the troll mentioned earlier spinning fake stories, but considering the cheerleader part and her userpage seeming to coincide with this troll's timeline suggested that could've been ETC. Though I certainly don't want to reignite that whole thing, it would be interesting if that was an old user all along. Spriggina (prat) (insatser) @ 02:39, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
You are talking about User:Retired, and yes, that was her. I know the woman IRL. She was a pain in the ass on Wikipedia messing with the school articles I was trying to improve, little did I know all those years it was someone who went to my own high school. What a Wonderful World (talk) 02:42, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Or are you talking about the one who was picking on User:Retired? That's your harassment troll. I assure you Ex-Troll thought they were pathetic and didn't take it personally. Ex-Troll was just trying to mess with the elections, actually. What a Wonderful World (talk) 02:44, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Ah, that clears it up a bit. Makes sense; I wasn't exactly trusting of the narrative promoted by various socks of the guy posting threats to her page. Though they did say something about suggesting RW instead of WP for vandalism, so this troll is likely pretty knowledgeable about ETC or actually was the same person. If she was only trying to disrupt elections, the former is probably the case. Spriggina (prat) (insatser) @ 02:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Oh her, Aside from the minor spat with her she was actually kind of amusing. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Ex-Troll isn't a bad person. Hopefully this isn't considered outing her identity or anything (especially since she discloses this on her Wikipedia page, where she has been unblocked), but she's actually a school teacher up north somewhere. This harasser guy on the other hand needs to seek mental help. What a Wonderful World (talk) 03:06, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Agreed, give me a Mr. Splashypants or a Boaty McBoatface over harassment any day of the week, at least they're funny. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:11, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Aha, and that's where harasser's story falls short, as he said that Retired (supposed to be him) was a college student in Illinois, not a schoolteacher. Quite the revealing tale. I wouldn't consider the vague information you put there to be doxxing, FWIW -- "up north" could mean anything depending on where you live. Spriggina (prat) (insatser) @ 03:14, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
(e/c) If it's any consolation, there's a guy on Conservapedia who acts about the same way, telling the sysops to "drop dead" and occasionally posting threats, wonder if it's the same guy? I must say, he is annoying. I have his IP address too because I'm a checkuser, but his ISP won't do anything, despite his activities being blatantly against TOS. Too bad he's not on CenturyLink, Comcast, or Cox. What a Wonderful World (talk) 03:17, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Huh, might be. I think he's more interested in the attention he gets from attacking people, not exactly motivated just by our political views (as this troll was on Wikipedia back in the day as well), so that's definitely a possibility. I got the IP address of the guy from the autoblock log as well as some pages which he had vandalized, but it was a mobile IP, so complaining wouldn't work on our end (and we don't have checkuser to check again, though there was a discussion about it when considering him). Spriggina (prat) (insatser) @ 03:25, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
The mobile ISPs are the worst. T-Mobile and the old pre-AT&T merger have both straight up said they have no way of tracing abuse due to carrier grade NATing (law enforcement must love that), and while I'm pretty sure a persistent Conservapedia troll who came here to whine about being reported for abuse a long time ago was in trouble with AT&T over an abuse report I sent, I haven't had much luck reporting AT&T Mobility people lately, probably also due to carrier grade NATing. Embarq, Sprint, Qwest, Comcast, Cox, Time Warner Cable, Level 3 Communications, Telus, Bell Canada, Netzero, OCN Japan, Earthlink, Chunghwa out of Taiwan, British Telecom, and universities and schools in general have generally been the most cooperative for abuse reports, but the abuse has to be really recent (like within the past week). Verizon hardwire used to be, but did a complete 180 in that regard around 2010 (they are now one of the worst). AT&T hardwire I think sometimes responds and sometimes does not. Charter sucks (or at least did before the merger; haven't sent anything to them since then), Optimum sucks, Shaw Cable sucks, HughesNet sucks, PLD in the Phillipines sucks, and pretty much anything out of China sucks. The webhosts will respond, but since most of them are Tor nodes, reporting them is useless. What a Wonderful World (talk) 03:38, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I've personally never tried to file an abuse report (only time I've come close was our pet troll, and I couldn't do it because he was on T-Mobile), but I hear the popular home web hosts like CenturyLink/Qwest and Comcast are better on that like you said, and I imagine universities would be good as well due to the diversity/tolerance bent most of them have. Even though I despise basically everything Conservapedia stands for, I do hope that whoever your troll is eases up; nobody should have to deal with death threats, and it's really annoying to try to deal with suppressing harassment and banning trolls when they're dedicated. Spriggina (prat) (insatser) @ 03:44, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Bear in mind[edit]

… you have given a certain amount of personal information above from which more could be derived (if one is so inclined and has access to relevant sources).

There #is# a case for 'effective invective' rather than 'expletive #### deleted.' Anna Livia (talk) 10:26, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Are you threatening to dox him? Spriggina (prat) (insatser) @ 22:00, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
No - just stating that others could so do. I prefer to use my ingenuity otherwise. Anna Livia (talk) 22:04, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
you know a veiled doxing threat is pretty serious right? Get fucked Acei9 04:17, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
Don't shoot the messenger, and I am making no threat.
Just fuzzy your information. Anna Livia (talk) 21:23, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
fuck off, fuck-knuckle. Acei9 01:23, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Why would anyone actually #want# to dox Ace? 81.153.12.221 (talk) 12:00, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Good question, Anna. —Kazitor, pending 12:10, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
you wouldn’t get much out of it. I’m a mess of person. Acei9 23:33, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Ace[edit]

I had several other identities during the beginning of the Wiki. Folk I remember: You, of course; Human; PFoster; BobM; Genghis; Susan; etc etc. Godot (talk) 21:46, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

and I remember you. And Genghis. He was a good bastard. Acei9 01:24, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
With all these Old Guard returning to us, I'd swear it's the end times. Well, it'll be a fun apocalypse, I guess. RoninMacbeth (talk) 02:16, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
@RoninMacbeth Of course it will, Ace is back. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:19, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
yes Ace is back. The scum also rises.... Acei9 06:30, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Damo is back too. Shall I resurrect my sock as well, or is that sort of thing frowned on these days? --DamoHi 10:53, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
@Damo As long as you aren't using it for harassment or some such, I at least don't mind. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 10:57, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Pretty sure I am having heart attack. That'd be interesting - not how I thought I'd go but the grim reaper is whispering strange secrets into my ears and won't get off the couch. What did YOU do today? Acei9 23:18, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
I mowed the yard in grueling Texas heat. I think I had less fun than you Ace. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 23:22, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
it’s raining here and I’m tired of this weather. I need a cigarette and my heart feels like an alligator. I’ll be states side next week - I’m coming to your house to make a scene. Acei9 01:24, 12 June 2018 (UTC)