Forum:Do you think God made everything happen on Earth?

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Do you think God made everything happen on Earth for a reason? For example, do you think God sent supposed "aliens" to create the pyramids, or he sent "aliens" to teach Asian people how to speak Chinese or Japanese, or even do you think he created war and death himself? Is there really a purpose to why God sent "aliens", or could there be another story? OR, do you think aliens aren't real, God gave humans the "gifts" to accomplish amazing things such as, the Pyramids of Giza, Stonehenge, write literature, or even invent something that changed the world?Uncle Larry (talk) 22:41, 3 February 2016 (UTC)Uncle Larry

I'm sorry - what are the point of these questions? Everyone is going to answer differently because of subjective belief and so consensus will never be reached. --Castaigne2 (talk) 22:57, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

The ancient Egyptians (who worshiped their own gods) had sufficient technology and geometry to work out how to do Pyramids (and what else do you do with the peasants in the flood season?); several groups of ancient people going in different directions and seeing different things/the group poets going for different word-plays etc will find their languages diverging.

God must be #very, very# busy looking after all the sentients and other lifeforms on all the (probably) many billions of life-bearing planets across the universe/multiverse... or do the gods each take a selection of planets and see what can be developed (think of allotments and village fruit and veg competitions)? Besides - why shouldn't God/the Gods wish to see how things 'develop of their own accord'? 31.51.113.216 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

I have no problem with religion like I have mentioned on other discussions but I do not think aliens/God/the Gods built the pyramids. Could everything in the universe happen for a reason? Maybe or maybe not, it is something we cannot prove or disprove.--Rationalzombie94 (talk) 00:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

I doubt that anything happened for a reason...otherwise, fate/Zeus/the Force/God/whatever would be pretty prone to changing its mind. Consider all the empires fallen, lifetime achievements destroyed, and ideas fallen into oblivion, just in the very short time of documented history. In my opinion, this "greater plan" is just a way of people to cope with things that contradict or confirms their personal set of beliefs and superstitions, or to make them feel somehow significant. --87.145.133.43 (talk) 01:34, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I do. I believe in meticulous providence – absolutely everything that happens does so because God willed it to so happen. God wills good as an end-in-itself, and evil as a means-to-an-end. Humans do not have the freedom to disobey divine decrees, but rather are perfectly obedient to them. Whatever choices you make, whether they be wise or foolish, saintly or wicked, those choices are God's will for your life. (((Zack Martin)))^™ 02:59, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Replying to the previous IP - the Delphic Oracle's universal prediction 'This too will pass.'

So, God isn't omnibenevolent? If "e were, then he'd be logically incapable of willing evil to happen.Petey Plane (talk) 15:56, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't see the incompatibility between omnibenevolence and willing evil, provided that every evil God wills somehow serves the greater good. If certain goods require evil for their existence, a universe containing a mix of good and evil may contain more good overall than a universe containing good alone. Thus, if God's aim is to create the universe with the most good, creating a mixed universe (with both good and evil) may better meet that aim than creating a purely good one. And I don't see that aim as incompatible with omnibenevolence. (((Zack Martin)))^™ 21:24, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

As a possibility for those so inclined - something like a paint by numbers/colouring in book (whether or not promoting mindfulness) - the basic structure is provided, it is up to the individual how the colouring/finish goes and how much is done. (A decorative version of the different magesteria (sp?) argument.) 31.51.113.71 (talk) 13:51, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

I like how the title gives no clue that Uncle Larry is going to throw aliens at us. 94.1.161.161 (talk) 17:31, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Do you think God made everything happen on Earth for a reason? No, but I think humanity created Gods for a reason.--Bob^{"Life is short and (insert adjective)"} 18:35, 4 February 2016 (UTC)