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I feel angry over the BLM people crashing the Pride event in Toronto. I mean... I'd like to think that I'm not racist, but I fear that maybe I am. Maybe I just need to isolate myself in some cabin in the middle of Nowhere Alaska for a while; just to get away from the shittiness that is Humanity.Ru1138 (talk) 17:39, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
- Bullies tried to commandeer somebody else's parade to direct attention to their own fine selves. Objecting to this doesn't make you a racist. Anybody who felt so entitled and self-righteous to pull such a stunt is an asshole no matter what the color of their skin is or how worthy they think their cause is. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 17:10, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that, from what little I read about what happened, their actions there amounted to dickery. It's not like they're the only organization trying to represent the cause of a persecuted group at the freaking Pride parade. As I understand it, they were invited to come. Couldn't they just join in the communal action and the parade, using the platform they were given in a - to the other social justice groups - fair and equitable way? I suppose all persecuted groups need attention, but some persectued groups deserve the attention more than others. Which is a highly divisory viewpoint, to say the least. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 17:20, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- I'd also like to drop a friendly reminder that it's entirely possible to be completely for a particular cause, while simultaneously disagreeing with or disliking a movement or proponent of said cause. You aren't being hypocritical if you're for ethical animal treatment, but find PeTA or the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society distasteful. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 21:18, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- The real problem with this group is their psychobabble. "Black space matters"? "We made space for ourselves in a place where we have been erased"? WTF, are these people from another planet? You could make a drinking game out of every time the word space is used. I happen to agree with them that the police should not be allowed to participate in gay pride parades, and even agree with a sit down strike during the parade to call attention to the issue, because the police have always been the historic enemy of the gay community and we must never forgive, never forget. But space space space space, WTF. — Unsigned, by: 199.189.26.52 / talk / contribs
- I think the police should be allowed to join if they genuinely support the struggle. They shouldn't be ordered there, but if they honestly wish to participate out of support, welcome them with open arms. Pride is a celebration, not a finger pointing rally. And the best way to break down walls is for people to just show up and meet some gay people and notice that they're not so different people, great and diverse people even. Also lol, you make it sound like BLM is out to get their "race" the lebensraum it so justly deserves, by force if need be. Reminds me of someone... Reverend Black Percy (talk) 14:53, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
- The real problem with this group is their psychobabble. "Black space matters"? "We made space for ourselves in a place where we have been erased"? WTF, are these people from another planet? You could make a drinking game out of every time the word space is used. I happen to agree with them that the police should not be allowed to participate in gay pride parades, and even agree with a sit down strike during the parade to call attention to the issue, because the police have always been the historic enemy of the gay community and we must never forgive, never forget. But space space space space, WTF. — Unsigned, by: 199.189.26.52 / talk / contribs
- I'd also like to drop a friendly reminder that it's entirely possible to be completely for a particular cause, while simultaneously disagreeing with or disliking a movement or proponent of said cause. You aren't being hypocritical if you're for ethical animal treatment, but find PeTA or the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society distasteful. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 21:18, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that, from what little I read about what happened, their actions there amounted to dickery. It's not like they're the only organization trying to represent the cause of a persecuted group at the freaking Pride parade. As I understand it, they were invited to come. Couldn't they just join in the communal action and the parade, using the platform they were given in a - to the other social justice groups - fair and equitable way? I suppose all persecuted groups need attention, but some persectued groups deserve the attention more than others. Which is a highly divisory viewpoint, to say the least. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 17:20, 5 July 2016 (UTC)