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For the German political party known as AfD, see Alternative für Deutschland.

Some articles on RationalWiki are ripe for plucking and deletion. If you think an article fits this description (and there is no page that it could be better merged with), here are the steps to take to put it on this page:

  1. Add {{Article for deletion}} or {{Article for deletion|Reason}} to the top of the page you think needs deletion.
  2. Press the save button to get the rest of the instructions to populate.
  3. The second line of instructions that appear below the deletion template allow for pre-populating a discussion, click that button, replace the word "Reason" with your reasoning for wanting to delete the article.
  4. Finally add {{RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/ReplaceMeWithTheArticleName}} to top of this list. Don't forget to change the ReplaceMeWithTheArticleName to the proper article name from step 3.

Please notify the creator/main editor(s), particularly if it's new and the users are active.

Then wait a while and see what the mob thinks, unless there's an actual reason it needs to be taken out and shot quickly (e.g., severely problematic living person bio).

If the article you are attempting to create an AfD page for has had an AfD before, you will have to create a new subpage manually. Preferably, make it useful and easy to refer to in the future, such as putting the month or date or a version number of the second Afd.

If you are attempting to merge the article with another, PLEASE DO NOT USE THIS PAGE. That belongs at RationalWiki:Duplicate articles.

Also, if you think an article is substandard but still potentially on-mission, remember that a move to Draft: space might be sufficient.

And don't forget to subscribe. This will allow you to see when a new article for deletion is added.

To archive:

  1. Edit the AFD page to change the result from "?" to "deleted" or "kept" or whatever.
  2. Go to RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Log and remove the {{RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Article}}.
  3. Go to the 2019 archives and add {{RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Article}} at the top of the stack.

After deleting, add Category:Talk pages for deleted articles to the talk page if it has one.

Planet of the Apes | Result: ?[edit]

Planet of the Apes (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Totally off mission. I tried cleaning it up but it still reads like a movie review. Has no mission purpose. Acei9 02:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

  1. How about moving to Funspace? It does have some themes that are missional (Planet of the Apes#Issues addressed). Bongolian (talk) 03:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
    I mean you could but it sounds like a movie with some irrelevant stuff shoehorned into it to make it mission like. It serves no purpose. Acei9 04:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  2. Concur with Bongolian on moving to funspace. NekoDysk 11:17, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  3. Good suggestion on moving it to funspace. Cosmikdebris (talk) 14:42, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  4. Funspace seems right. If it was mainly a one author product, it might have been turned into an essay, but as it is, funspace makes sense. If it is subsequently turned from its current emphasis on being a movie review into something more missional (cf. X-Files for missional pop culture), we can always move it back into mainspace. ScepticWombat (talk) 17:00, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Forum of Ugly | Result: ?[edit]

Forum of Ugly (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

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  1. This article is a short stub from August 2018, nearly a year ago, no expansion, and it's entirely in Italian. I don't know its clout in Italy. This is partially because the article isn't informative and doesn't tell me why I should care about some random foreign forum that's hosted through free web host (it appears to be big and rather active, however). The webpage's design looks disturbing and has a red pill as a favicon, but other than that, can't glean any more information. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 22:36, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  2. Agree, wholeheartedly. ScepticWombat (talk) 23:32, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  3. Incel hangout #56 noted. I have no further shits to give. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 23:35, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  4. Yeah. Another example of an article giving something to do with the Men's Rights Movement more attention than it deserves and another example of an article about an unimportant website. Spud (talk) 23:38, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  5. Don't care about this stub enough to keep it. NekoDysk 11:26, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  6. Delete the article, but add a mention to Incel. Cosmikdebris (talk) 19:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

Merge/redirect[edit]

  1. Could it go to Manosphere glossary? --Annanoon (talk) 10:15, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
    But how will this fit? This isn't exactly Manosphere lexicon. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 18:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Goat[edit]

  • Is this "A nobody with a blog forum" or is this "we're english speakers and none of us pay attention to foreign sites that are notable"? ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 18:05, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
    Yeah it being in Italian is a major factor. NekoDysk 19:32, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
It's more of "this article on a subject we cannot really verify its scope and messages is not a good article". --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Anglo-Saxon Foundation | Result: ?[edit]

Anglo-Saxon Foundation (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

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  1. This article describes a website that has been dead for ages now. It's no longer relevant. Oxyaena Harass 04:55, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
There's lots of pages on no-longer-existing organisations, whether fascist, communist, or just plain weird. So I don't think an organisation (or their website) being dead is in itself reason for deletion. --Annanoon (talk) 10:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. People spent a lot of time making this extensive article. It might be useful for someone at some later date. Besides they were pissed at us. Bongolian (talk) 05:03, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  2. Things do not simply become irrelevant. This is a perfectly good article. NekoDysk 08:59, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  3. Change to past tense then. Historical content is fine. And these sort of people tend to come back - David Gerard (talk) 11:24, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  4. Agreed, past tense. We must study the past if we wish to avoid repeating it. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 16:27, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  5. Yup, revise to past tense and keep as it is well written and cited. These ideas have not disappeared and I would be surprised if this site doesn’t “reincarnate” under a new name with similar contents and overlapping authors/contributors (that’s a well worn pattern on both the radical left and right; cf. Monty Python’s Judean People’s FrontWikipedia's W.svg in Life of Brian. ScepticWombat (talk) 23:41, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Goat[edit]

Door Frankema | Result: ?[edit]

Door Frankema (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Delete[edit]

  1. Do we need to have an article on every anti-vaxxer? Spud (talk) 02:22, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
    Can't say she's just another anti-vaxxer. She's apparently the leader of the movement in the Netherlands? --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 02:27, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
    @LeftyGreenMario Given that the last major edit to the article was in late 2015 I would suspect that the anti-vax community in the Netherlands may have moved on. It might be worth looking into before we decide whether to keep or kill. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:48, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
    The website that's the target of this article is very slick and pseudo-professional, but appears to be stale; it hasn't been updated in a year or so. Cosmikdebris (talk) 03:09, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Keep[edit]

  1. Mentioned by news as recent as April, no reason to suspect she is inactive and certainly not irrelevant or minor. NekoDysk 08:58, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Merge/redirect[edit]

Goat[edit]

  • I think it’s one of those “use it or lose it” cases. Either the stub should be expanded into a proper article or it can be safely scrapped as its current format is rather unimpressive and uninformative, in addition to the above concerns over its possible staleness. ScepticWombat (talk) 23:45, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Most of the coverage of her actions is in Dutch-language media. Are there any Dutch-speaking RatWikians who could expand it? --Annanoon (talk) 10:09, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
I believe so, but anyone can use Google if they like. NekoDysk 11:32, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
I wouldn't recommend using Google Translate on claims that may be defamatory/libellous if mistranslated. --Annanoon (talk) 09:13, 16 July 2019 (UTC)