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Pilots for 9/11 Truth | Result: ?[edit]

Pilots for 9/11 Truth (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)


  1. Obscure truthers whose only internet presence has long since gone away. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 15:20, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
  2. Stubby little stub. Let's boot it! - Rairyu75 (Talk) 15:26, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
  3. It's 5 sentences long. Make it an article or burn it all down already. Correkt (talk) 18:25, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
  4. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 19:38, 25 July 2021 (UTC)



  1. Perhaps a listing of 'obscure 9/11 conspiracy theory groups' as a subsection on the main 9/11 page (or a separate page if there are enough of them) would be the simplest way of handling such matters. Anna Livia (talk) 18:23, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
    There is a bullet list of truthers in the main 9/11 page. I certainly would not object to merging this into there and expanding that section. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 18:33, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
  2. Per Anna Livia and Cosmik. Techpriest (talk) 19:28, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
    There are likely to be a number of '9/11 - Twenty Years After, the Truth (Whether or not anyone agrees with me)' books coming out, so would be convenient to have something arranged ahead of time. 19:37, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
  3. Monet talk 18:01, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  4. Seems appropriate. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 18:05, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  5. A minor listing of fringe or defunct groups would be more fitting. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 20:30, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  6. I like the idea proposed by Anna Livia. 𝒮𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓃𝑒 talk 23:41, 26 July 2021 (UTC)


  • Their site appears to be down now, but was up this January. 𝒮𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓃𝑒 talk 15:27, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
    I'm honestly not finding much other online presence about them (at least, not as much as AE911Truth). It looks like a similar group, "9/11 Pilot Whistleblowers" ( has a bigger footprint among conspiracy theorist pilots now (given they have their own active Youtube channel and Twitter), but I haven't looked too deeply into this yet. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 16:06, 25 July 2021 (UTC)