RationalWiki:Articles for demotion

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Some articles here are good. Like, really good. So good, you want others to know how good they are. Others were once really good, and now... not so much. If you believe an article is worthy or no longer worthy of a Silver or perhaps even Gold brainstar, you can place it on this page, where it will be promptly ignored carefully considered by the Mob.

The only rule we seem to agree upon is "Thou Shalt Use Common Sense", but in general...

  1. Add the {{Article for demotion}} (or just {{afdem}}) template to the top of the article you wish to demote
  2. Add {{RationalWiki:Articles for demotion/"ArticleName"}} to the top of this page
  3. Give the cabal enough time to recover from our hangovers come to a general consensus
  4. After the voting is more or less settled, move {{RationalWiki:Articles for demotion/"ArticleName"}} to a proper place in the vault, and add the result to the title
  5. Remove the template from the article itself. If the article has been approved for demotions, you may have the dishonors.

And don't forget to subscribe. This will allow you to see when a new article for demotion is added.

To judge whether an article is suitable for demotion, see: Article rating.


Islam (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs) – (View discussion)

Demote to silver[edit]

  1. Well-written and missional. Kevs Ping! 09:39, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Status quo[edit]

  1. Not good enough, imo. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 16:29, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
  2. I want more silver articles, but this is more of a historical sort of thing for supporting other articles. Now, Islamophobia is a good topic for silver/gold, as are articles on Islamist terrorism, conspiracy theories regarding Islam, pseudo-scientific arguments regarding Quranic foreknowledge and whatnot. CorSock (talk) 16:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


  1. One of the requirements for slivering an article is that it’s potential gold material. I don’t see us having Islam on the front page unless we demoted one or two other major religions at the same time. Christopher (talk) 09:47, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Blazing Saddles[edit]

Promote to Bronze[edit]

  1. It's a good movie. It's an in depth article. But is it so missional that it could ever be a cover story?CorSock (talk) 20:22, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Leave as is[edit]

  1. I supported its original demotion to silver and I support keeping it silver. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 20:21, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
  2. I'm biased. Bongolian (talk) 20:34, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Goat only pawn in game of life[edit]

  1. There were two of us who gave a silver badge for this dang thing, so unless you can wrassle up a posse, it should probably stay as is. Bongolian (talk) 19:45, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
    We'll do the ol' number 6 on it...CorSock (talk) 19:55, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

George W. Bush[edit]


  1. Cortex (argue) 01:05, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
  2. Definitely deserves silver. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 01:07, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
  3. -Flandres (talk) 01:13, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
  4. The 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭 talk stalk 05:33, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

As Is[edit]

  1. It meets all other requirements, but I don't see it meeting the "Article topic is directly relevant to and worthy of RW's mission". Let's talk about this once Adolf Hitler has gone gold. Knight CommanderIn ServiceTo HerGoatness 01:46, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
  2. I'm not in favour of silvering articles on historical figures. He was relevant when he was president but that was 12 years ago. Avida Dollarsher again 16:06, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
    Well, the aftershocks of his tenure still deeply affect us today...-Flandres (talk) 01:34, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
    There's very little of that in the actual article though. Avida Dollarsher again 07:52, 27 March 2021 (UTC)


  1. Seems to be a bit controversial. I'm fine with not demoting if there's more than a token objection, even with 2 to 1 in favor. I kinda think we should need more than just a simple majority since, well, mob mentality and all, but we don't really have rules on this so, IDK. Let's see what the Supreme Court saysWikipedia... Cortex (argue) 06:06, 2 April 2021 (UTC)


Demote to Silver[edit]

  1. I give it my beta-male weak support. Given all the incel murders of late, fairly important. Corny (argue) 02:20, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
  2. -Flandres (talk) 01:33, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Leave As Is[edit]

  1. Kevs Ping! 06:49, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
  2. Needs more work, in my opinion.The 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭 talk stalk 05:35, 31 March 2021 (UTC)



Silver Cross[edit]

  1. These guys deserve it Corinth (talk) 02:28, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
  2. -Flandres (talk) 01:35, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Bronze Star[edit]

  1. Kevs Ping! 06:49, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Order of the Goat[edit]



  1. YepCorny (argue) 02:30, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
  2. -Flandres (talk) 01:35, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

As is[edit]

  1. Citations need cleaning up if nothing else. Bongolian (talk) 07:05, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
  2. Keep it as is. Only needs cleaned-up citations. 2601:199:4181:E00:C104:BDD8:3A6:D02F (talk) 20:58, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Companion goat[edit]

Church of Scientology[edit]

Demote to OT III[edit]

  1. Me Correkt (pester) 00:40, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
  2. Good, extensive and thoroughly sourced article that's missional to boot. Demote ASAP. Knight CommanderIn ServiceTo HerGoatness 01:03, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
  3. -Flandres (talk) 01:04, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

We need to pay more first[edit]

  1. Citations need cleaning up first. Bongolian (talk) 07:06, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
  2. As well as the badly formatted citations already mentioned, some sections aren't referenced at all. --Annanoon (talk) 09:52, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
  3. Kevs Ping! 11:41, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
  4. It could be silver at some point, but it needs more references in a few places, and many references that are there are a poorly formatted mess. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 14:49, 31 March 2021 (UTC)