RationalWiki talk:Kitzmiller v. Dover annotated transcript/P001

Why is this being separated into "P001" etc.? 1) How many parts are planned? Over a hundred? 2) Why not just have one page, rather than having a bunch of pages with ugly titles? Blue (pester) 03:06, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Why is this being separated into "P001" etc.? - I had to pick some naming system for laying it all out and this was it. When it's all finished people can re-evaluate and pick better page names.

How many parts are planned? Over a hundred? - I would guess, hard to tell at the moment.

Why not just have one page, rather than having a bunch of pages with ugly titles? - One page would be extraordinarily long, difficult to navigate, plus would probably be inaccessible to people on a mobile device.

If you're against the idea of developing this, then delete away. But there is nowhere on the web which provides an annotation of the trial, so I thought it would be a good thing to have. There is a lot of fascinating stuff in the transcript.

VOX^HUMANA 03:41, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I'd suggest moving them to project space so the subpage function works, to start. Blue (is useful) 03:48, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't know how to do that. Anyway, ever since I started this little project the feedback I've received has made me think this probably was a bad idea. So I'll kill it. VOX^HUMANA 03:53, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Blue - after your tedious comments above I gave up, deleted the project, and went to try to find somewhere better on the web to put it. But I spent a day looking and unfortunately RW remains the best place I can find. So I'm stuck here. So if you have anything positive or constructive to add, then please, by all means chip in, but if all you want to do is sit around and whine then I'm just going to ignore your input. VOX^HUMANA 22:26, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Do you want a hand? (I can move it to project space for you, for one.) Peter ^mqzp 00:08, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

I'd be delighted, thanks Peter. Sorry, I'm just pissed off by the tedious, petty negativity that goes on endlessly around here. RW has a surfeit of useless people who will criticize everything, but won't lift a finger to do anything useful. VOX^HUMANA 00:11, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

That's always a pain, though I'm sure I've done that myself. Is this where you got the stuff from? Also, what are you using to divide it up into pages? Peter ^mqzp 00:19, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

No, I got it from a friend in Los Angeles who got it from PACER. It was in PDF format, and I dumped the entire thing into a series of text files. I'm breaking it up into pages manually, and cleaning up the text using XVI32 (a programmable hex editor) as every line has a numerical digit before it, and there are lots of page numbers, case IDs etc on every page of the transcript. VOX^HUMANA 00:24, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok. While you do that I'll start the annotations with what's already up. Peter ^mqzp 00:26, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

How in blazes did you "invent the wikiproject" when you don't know how to move a fucking page? Or, apparently, take the slightest criticism of your little project without blowing up?

I helped your hideous titles at least attempt to follow the manual of style just now. Blue (is useful) 00:40, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Blue - thanks for proving my point. If you've got a useful suggestion to make, I'm always receptive. But this petty negativity is something I just have no time for. VOX^HUMANA 00:44, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

You're a bleeding idiot and I regret provoking you. What a precious flower you are to see calling your titling scheme "ugly" an example of "petty negativity." Should I have said your titles were "aesthetically challenged," perhaps, would that have mad you feel better? I ought to have moved the whole thing into your userspace and been done with it. Blue (pester) 00:50, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

I ought to have moved the whole thing into your userspace and been done with it. - LOL. Well that was helpful. VOX^HUMANA 01:01, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Organization

Eventually there will be a lot of names on this page - so I'm certainly open to suggestion as to how best to arrange them. At the moment I'm just adding new names to the bottom as they arise. VOX^HUMANA 02:57, 21 March 2013 (UTC)