Talk:Abel

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Pure speculation[edit]

It is speculated by one person (me) that the tale of Cain and Abel is a garbled survival of tales of conflict between pastoral and agricultural tribes - the nomads attacked farming areas (the murder of Abel) and were driven off to live in the deserts and mountains (AKA the Land of Nod). Totnesmartin 17:39, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

Fall of Man?[edit]

Personally, I have always felt that "The Fall" was not when Eve ate the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, but when Cain killed Abel. It was a petty and ireful God that punished Adam and Eve for eating the Fruit; the true Fall of Man would've been the first murder. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 22:10, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

God is all knowing - but has to ask Cain what happened to his brother? Summat wrong here. — Unsigned, by: 82.198.250.66 / talk / contribs 16:27, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

God was asking Cain a rhetorical question. 74.89.192.173 (talk) 22:19, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Never mentioned again[edit]

And? Lots of bible characters never get mentioned again after the bit they're in. Sophiebecause liberals 18:33, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't get it either. Тyrannosaurs 19:40, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
I know I had a reason behind it at the time; but i can't remember anymore so meh, ok. --il'Dictator Mikal 19:51, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Authorized meat?[edit]

The text says that YWHW didn't authorize eating meat until after the flood (using Genesis 9:3 as it's source). However, Genesis 9:3 says they can eat meat. In fact, it doesn't even specify clean meat: "Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant." The only caveat is that they can't drink (or eat) blood (Genesis 9:4).Onychoprion (talk) 21:48, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Genesis 9 is God's covenant with Noah - after the flood, like the text says. This is the first explicit reference to eating meat within the Bible and takes place several generations after Adam, Cain & Abel. WëäŝëïöïďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 22:10, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Ah, so it is. Major derp on my part, there, sorry. ><Onychoprion (talk) 23:39, 8 December 2014 (UTC)