Talk:Ancient Egyptian human sacrifice

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This Religion related article has been awarded BRONZE status for quality. It's getting there, but could be better with improvement. See RationalWiki:Article rating for more information.



This seems silver worthy to me. Тytalk 21:09, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I suppose, though i wonder what it has to do with "RW's mission". ARen't siver and gold articles, one's we want to highlight as "we really have something to say, here?" Before it gets an official silver, I'd love anyone to write something that moves it from "wikipedia light" to "we have a reason for talking about this". like is it part of the religions that informed Christianity? or is it something that is going on today? (I'd actually never heard of it before) Pink mowse.pngEn attendant Godot 21:13, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Pseudohistory, I guess, we have a lot off off mission crap that is actually very well written. Тytalk 21:15, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
I would never suggest us getting ride of it, and i'd love to see us highlight more articles that are well written with silver heads. (though i'm not sure what makes "well written"). I'm just saying i think we can be more RW in this article. So anyhow, the quality is defiantly highlightable, and maybe in the back ground we can think of things that are more RW to add. Pink mowse.pngEn attendant Godot 21:20, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Ah, snark. My sense of humor is famously lacking, but I'll try. Тytalk 21:23, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Actually, i wasn't meaning snark. that's fun, but i come to RW for the "challenging" side. As i reread this, it is very much RW - BUT BUT BUT the first paragraph sucks. First of all, there is no "abados human sacrifice theory", so the author(s) of this page trip over themselves trying to give it a title/opening. if we can rewrite the opening paragraph to
  1. rename the page to maybe "ancient egyptian human sacrifice" or something
  2. put the fact that this theory is bunk, into the opening paragraph
  3. For the hell of it find a place to include the UFO sightings in Abydos...

Then it would make total sense. cause I see why it's very much Rational Wiki, but from the intro paragraph it's not yet clear!Pink mowse.pngEn attendant Godot 21:29, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Alrighty, though we have a separate page on the "helicopter." Damn it, I'm supposed to be "retired"! Oh well. Тytalk 21:31, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm glad you're not. and i'm glad we have something on the helicopter. i'd never seen it till i googled Abydos to figure out what this human sacrifice was all about. all good! I'd personally say, silver away! I'd not gold, cause it needs history on what Abydos is. as far as i can tell, they just jump into it as if we are all Egytpian geography experts. heh.Pink mowse.pngEn attendant Godot 21:37, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Looking at the fossil record, the guy who wrote this is/was. To quote Armondikov "As much as these people infuriate the fuck out of me, they are fun and do great work when they've got out of bed on the right side. " Тytalk 21:39, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and I'm leaving it open for a little longer in case some angry loon comes barging in to protest something. Тytalk 21:41, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Damn right. ADK...I'll jerk your number! 16:26, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm an angry loon and I'd like to protest! --TheEgyptiansig001.png 22:40, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Why so angry mister loon?
Тytalk 13:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Angry loon is loony, and needs no reason to be angry ;-) That said not sure if I am flattered or not to be worthy of Armondikov's quote... Back to business, I started the article as felt it was quasi-relevant to RW mission concerning popular archaeology. I have refrained from putting in an absolute statement of the issue being nothing more than pure bunk, as there is just about enough evidence to create the basis for sacrifice to be considered a possibility, albeit a highly improbable one. However this is used as a basis to create sensationalist pop-archaeology publications that present a rather flimsy possibility as a fact of similar certainty to "The Romans built Hardrian's Wall" or "The Egyptians eat bread" when neither satisfactory evidence nor scholarly consensus exists to support any such supposed certainty. --TheEgyptiansig001.png 19:50, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Nah, you're cool, I was talking about RW in general there. Тytalk 21:55, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
That's good, 'cos I can only get out of bed on one side, my bedroom being rather small an all ;)--TheEgyptiansig001.png 23:01, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
No, sorry. it's totally relevant, I'm just stupid. it's revisionist history, but in the way it was presented, I missed that in my "glance through". I think we rewrote the opening a bit, just to clear that "hit and run" factor up. Also, I added a section (pulled directly from WikiP, though reworded) about the town itself. you might look at it and clean it up. Those of us who are uneducated about egypt and still think "up" is "down" (or "lower"), feel very lost when you jump in with (albeit quite interesting) stuff that assumes we know the difference between bast and baat. ;-)Pink mowse.pngEn attendant Godot 20:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
I'll give it a look over... just remember down is up and up is down... just like that really bad Kevin Costner film :) --TheEgyptiansig001.png 20:39, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
That "one" really bad KC film? um... yeah. ;-)Pink mowse.pngEn attendant Godot 20:45, 22 August 2011 (UTC)


I think this is more of a bronze. Citations are needed in several places.--Кřěĵ (ṫåɬк) 15:54, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

The case against[edit]

  • 'I am appointing you my Spad [1]'
  • 'Thank you oh Pharaoh'
  • 'At the end of 10 years, you will be executed whether you were good or bad' (rather than just 'only if your hands are too evidently in the till' and similar')
  • 'Your honour - I have just remembered I have some urgent business with the Nubans/the Sea People etc, and I will take my post on my return.' (this side of never). (talk) 16:11, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Flying Bedsteads[edit]

Should some link be made to the Abydos helicopter? (talk) 22:19, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


While the Egyptians held life to be sacred, this doesn't mean capital punishment was unheard of. One coup plot was dealt with by 28 people executed, meanwhile 10 of the nobility were allowed to off themselves to avoid the humiliation of a public trial and execution. Carthage (talk) 16:00, 17 August 2023 (UTC)