Talk:Arab supremacy

Skin colour and racism

“”Despite [...] the fact that the Arabs and Africans in Sudan are generally the same color,

I think it's largely an Amerocentric misconception that a difference in skin colour is required for racism. Many of the Jews persecuted in WWII were just as white as the Germans. Hutu and Tutsi are both just as black. All that's required for racism is that a group of people is identified as belonging to a different race, which can be based on a lot of different properties (and not always just superficial ones). 141.134.75.236 (talk) 23:04, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

You are absolutely correct. This is the argument to make when someone says, for instance, you can't be racist agaisnt Muslims because "Muslim" isn't a race. It becpomes a "race" once you racialize those people, as, say the Nazis did the Jews. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 23:11, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I'll buy that. Is it actually Americentric? Most Americans I know call the Rwandan genocide genocide because it was about race. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 23:48, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

GENOcide is called that because it's a portmanteau of "genos" meaning "people," and "cide" meaning "kill." To kill a people. The UN genocide convention applies to "people" defined as to national, racial, religious or ethnic groups. Other definitions take a broader view of who counts as a "people" to incorporate, say political groups, like, say the Kulaks, or, in the case of Cambodia, the enemies of the revolution. F. Chalk and K. Johnasson have the best working definition of a target group, something along the lines of "the groups as defined by the perpetrator," meaning whomever they lump together a sharing some sort of identity that makes them a target for killing. There doesn't have to be anything objectively or sociologically "real" about it. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 23:56, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Again, that seems true. I was just wondering what made 141 think this was just an American thing. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 00:17, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

I think there's something to be said for the averagely-educated American, the kind of person to whom the phrase "race is a social construct" is not part of their daily discourse, to conflate "race" and "skin colour." Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 00:25, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Sure. But are averagely-educated citizens of other nations different? αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 00:32, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, because many of those nations don't have a long and prominent history of keeping pretty much exclusively darker skinned people as slaves and treating them as inferior due to their perceived race. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 05:17, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Isn't it just strawman constructing Leftist liars that ever say race is skin color? And no, criticism of Islam is not "racism". "Racism" doesn't mean "being mean to people" (possibly for a good reason). Is your endless Christ bashing "racism"? Christ... And yes, Arabs have a much longer history of keeping Black (and White) slaves. 125.61.100.2 (talk) 05:47, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

You've nailed it, 125. All that time, I thought the people opposed to emancipation of blacks in America were conservative reactionaries -- but now I realize that True Conservatives reject race-based discrimination, and those "reactionaries" were naught but wolves in sheep's clothing! αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 05:56, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm not seeing the sequitur here. 125.61.100.2 (talk) 06:00, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Ah, here we have a racist specimen; convenient. Say, racist person, which of these do you think is Muslim? This president of a 87% Muslim country or this football player with a Middle Eastern name and facial appearance? Also, I should point out that discriminating against a people based on them doing bad things in the past would also incriminate your so-valued white race. To be clear, I wouldn't discriminate against people for that reason, but you apparently would. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 06:07, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Aw, they got banned. Such a pity. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 06:21, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Mikemikev's behaviour and its predictable and justified consequences is beginning to remind me of the two lead players in Disney's old Hockey Homicide: As soon as Mikemikev's time in RW's "penalty box" is over, he repeats the behaviour that got him "kicked off the ice" in the first place and so he's sent right back into the "penalty box". ScepticWombat (talk) 07:44, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Turkmen

Is this supposed to mean "Turkish men"? I'm not aware of any Turkmens living in Syria or Iraq.Mcc1789 (talk) 03:58, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

"Turkmen" are an ethnic group whose members mostly live in Turkmenistan and nearby places. 192․168․1․42 (talk) 03:34, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware. I don't find any listed as living in Iraq and Syria though.Mcc1789 (talk) 03:58, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Iraqi Turkmen, Syrian Turkmen 141.134.75.236 (talk) 05:17, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Kurds

The article is outdated about the conflicts armed by Salim Idlís against the Syrian Kurds. 2804:14C:5BB5:8076:2923:EEC9:7F5E:FC2C (talk) 19:17, 13 October 2019 (UTC)