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Lactose intolerance and aged cheese

Traditionally ripened cheese may be tolerated better than milk, so it makes perfect sense that the French should be producing cheese. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 01:36, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I was just trying to add a silly fallacious example! Shoot, now I need a better obvious mistruth.--^talk 01:44, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Been trying to think up another one for you. I got nothin. Sprocket J Cogswell 01:49, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Footnote bug

For some reason, I can't get the footnote for the quote at the top of the page to display. Never mind, just switched around the template. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 21:21, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

For future reference; templates with dpl do a weird thing with the resetting parser, meaning ref tags will mess up. ^narchist 21:47, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

'Logical conclusions'

Whatever gives rise to [1] #automatically# leads to the plot device of [2]. (I know 'two different planets' but the point remains) 82.44.143.26 (talk) 18:16, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're talking about. ikanreed ^{You probably didn't deserve that} 18:49, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

'Being able to commit murder' leads inevitably through biological determinism to 'destroying the rest of the population.' (The capta is 'nut case' which sums up b d-ism)

Biology determines the range of possibilities within which 'an organism' can operate - but the options chosen will be determined by chance/what the organism wishes to do (probably even amoebas can get a taste for a particular food - and evolve in a specific direction as a result) or has the options to do (octopuses living in mangrove swamps may follow a parallel evolutionary path to mudskippers and evolve into insect-eating tree climbers) 82.44.143.26 (talk) 14:25, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Biological Determinism verses Environmental Determinism

Concerning the terms biological determinism and environmental determinism - which both appear to be defined as contrarian absolutes -re there terms to describe B verses E or E verses B where these terms are not defined as absolutes, but each one purportedly tending to have more influence than the other. For instance is there a term for environment not having absolute dominance over biology, but having slightly more influence than biology, or biology not having absolute dominance over environment, but biology having slightly more influence than environment? Are there terms that suggest shades of gray along a spectrum, rather than absolutes as to the influence of B verses E or E verses B. SissyMendelstein (talk) 06:18, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what is meant by "environment" in this context. If the meaning is like the "nurture" in the "nature/nurture" debate, then I know of no comparative opposite to biological determinism (i.e. that practically anything can be put down to nurture). Also, the claim that biological and social factors are both important (i.e. that it's nature and nurture), with each playing greater or lesser roles depending on the case under scrutiny isn't controversial, but seems rather to be the consensus.

If, instead, "environment" means something like "geography", then the comparison between biological determinism and geographical determinism (think of Jared Diamond) becomes a little too much like comparing apples and oranges.

I must admit that the entire post is a bit convoluted and I can't figure out what SM is trying to get at. ScepticWombat (talk) 06:32, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

I was referring to the nature/nurture debate. There seems to be different opinions about nature verses nurture concerning which is more influential. Some believe that nature (inborn genetics) has more influence over nurture (how you are raised / environment), while some believe the opposite is true that nurture has more influence than nature. I was wondering if this hot topic has been fully flushed out on this wiki? Is there a consensus on this subject based on twin studies? SissyMendelstein (talk) 04:12, 29 November 2015 (UTC)