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Possibly awkward subtitle or organization

The first subtitle "What communism 'actually is,'" is somewhat a misnomer, and the information under it at best could be described as "attempts at communism." For example, Stalin or Stalinism is ideologically very far from the original Communist mindset (i.e. a big spinoff.) Without changing that subtitle, a lot of the information could be moved under "Communism in practice."

I fully agree: there is a common misunderstanding. For example USSR had never been and had never named itself as state of communism (there is no "C" in its name). It were state of socialism, which where building communism (but failed) under the lead of Communist Party. So it was communist's state, but not communism. And Staling himself mentioned many times that communism where far, far away to future (generations) for him. And by his written opinion all what he was doing - building economical, social and cultural base for it. So when talking about wat communism 'actually is,' one should tell about theoretical descriptions of society where means of production (not personal property) are owned by community. Or change the title.

John Lennon a Marxist?

Maybe to assclowns like Nate Shapiro, but it doesn't withstand even a cursory review of his ideas. "Revolution" was a polemic against the Maoist fad in Britain in 1968 and "Imagine" was seen as utopian nonsense by radicals.

Marx's Determinism

From the article: "Marx was not deterministic, but he does occasionally seem as such; he believed that socialists would have to actively help educate the workers and fight for a revolution, rather than it just happening automatically. However, crises and such would aid it." I should note that I just changed some formatting here, so maybe I messed something up, but it seems to me that the claim that Marx occasionally seems deterministic is not supported by what follows it. I think it might be better to remove the statement that "he does occasionally seem as such," or to add a clearer example of where he seems to be deterministic. I also think "crises and such" needs more detail. It isn't clear what "and such" refers to, nor how it would help promote the revolution. Again, though, I feel I might just be missing something, so I thought I would mention it here. EyeSky (talk) 19:49, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Add Hutterites to list

Add Hutterites to "The few examples when communism worked out relatively fine"

And say something along the lines of "They've achieved economic equality but are still a conservative Christian sect, so take that as you will" or something like that. Thank u 😎 would edit but dont have perms :D