Talk:Environmental classism

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Include use by environmentalists in the opening section[edit]

This usage of the term is by far more common for anyone who actually reads about environmental justice- where this term came from. As it is now, it just reads very like a very childish and misinformed rant that turns viewers away from reading about environmental justice. 76.78.203.193 (talk) 00:30, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Feed-in tariff as regressive tax[edit]

I think this article could mention that feed-in tariffs for renewable electricity are essentially a regressive tax - everyone pays to subsidize those wealthy enough to build their own renewable electricity generation, and industry is typically exempt from this. --Tweenk (talk) 02:50, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

I know I'm late to the punch, but eh, what? How is a feed-in tariffWikipedia a regressive tax? It mainly applies to energy companies and is designed to push energy production in a greener direction, mainly by going off coal (which is cheap to build and run but environmentally problematic, to say the least). Similarly, the subsidy schemes for private citizens to put up solar panels (the big contributor to "citizens' power generation which is nevertheless marginal as a percentage of national power generation) also makes sense in an environmental perspective if it replaces "dirty" energy. When it comes to renewable energy, the goal (and one that seems to be working) has also been to pipe investment into more effective "green" energy production by creating more demand (and thus allow better economies of scale among producers of windmills, solar cells etc.) and more effective "green" energy generation through technological innovation (and the price per kWh has indeed dropped as scale of manufacture and production has increased).
It's exactly because energy production and grid maintenance makes little or no sense for the individual consumer (especially to the degree that a consumer would be self-sufficient) that it makes no sense to view feed-in tariffs in such an individualistic perspective. To put it bluntly, how many energy consumers are self-sufficient in energy and how many of them are these supposed wealthy producers hogging their "green" energy for themselves? ScepticWombat (talk) 12:03, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Gas taxes hurt the poor[edit]

Many Americans argue against higher gas taxes because supposedly they hurt the poor more than the rich and only limousine liberals in their hybrids could ever conceive of such a heretic idea. I am not the Ombud's man 16:16, 20 September 2016 (UTC)