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Fuck I'm either really rusty with organic chemistry or drunk but it took me a while to realise that the projection on the wikipedia article is the same as the one we have here. Damn conformers! Scarlet A.pngpostate 23:10, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Is this "alternative medicine"? Bodybuilding woo isn't really alt-med - David Gerard (talk) 10:18, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Would Actually work as A "Diet pill"[edit]

I'm not sure why it's use as a diet pill is considered woo as ephedrine does suppress the appetite. It works similarly to amphetamines with all the same side effects as well which is why using it as a diet pill is not a good idea, you'll loose weight but you might also go a little crazy with insomnia, hallucinations and delusions. --Sammygirl (talk) 08:47, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree. It is genuinely an appetite suppressant with similar effects (and side effects) to amphetamines, and thus there is nothing woo about considering it as a diet pill. Whether it is worth the potential side effects, as Sammygirl points out, is a different question from whether it works at all. Zack Martin HolyMaratreanSigil.png 08:55, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

you might also go a little crazy with insomnia, hallucinations and delusions\\No you wil not "In total, these suggest that herbal ephedra/caffeine herbal supplements, when used as directed by healthy overweight men and women in combination with healthy diet and exercise habits, may be beneficial for weight reduction without significantly increased risk of adverse events." C N Boozer1, P A Daly, P Home, J L Solomon, D Blanchard, J A Nasser, R Strauss and T Meredith "Herbal ephedra/caffeine for weight loss: a 6-month randomized safety and efficacy trial" Int J Obes May 2002, Volume 26, Number 5, Pages 593-604


The herb ephedra itself is not illegal to be sold in the United States. The FDA ban only and strictly applied to dietary supplements that contain ephedra as an ingredient. The plant itself (also known as Mormon Tea) is still legal to be sold provided it is not sold as a dietary supplement with claims of weight loss. (talk) 06:01, 28 December 2013 (UTC)


Just a bit of anecdata: In 2000, when I was 30 years old, I used an ECA product, Xenadrine, to lose weight. It worked! But after a while my prostate was unhappy. It (or something near it) would occasionally go into unpleasant spasms. And the enlargement of the prostate caused me to feel like I had to defecate, or wasn't finished. That led to straining, which led to an umbilical hernia. No joke. (I didn't have entrails spewing around under my belly skin or anything. Eventually it looked a bit like a closed eye below by navel. Eventually got it fixed in 2012.) (talk) 09:47, 18 February 2016 (UTC)