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I remember reading somewhere that (my memory is a bit fuzzy around this) the ideal weight loss pattern is one pound a week for 3 weeks, hold it for 2 weeks, lose 1 pound a week for three weeks, hold it for 2... I think you get the pattern. I will look it up online to see if I am correct, but I have a strong feeling those fad diets will spam out the healthy weight loss amount. ĴαʊΆʃÇä₰ no hell below him

Maybe I don't know the term well, but I'm not convinced "South Beach" diet, which is based on scientific research of diabetics, and is approved by the American Diabetic Association (and has now been followed by Weight Watchers with thier own "SB" version; by Sparks People who tend to be pretty up on the latest med info, and uses the same Low Carb/Good Carb concepts outlined by Harvard and Princton) is exactly a "fad". Most experts I've read are into the Low Carb/Good Carb thing. Not that any of it has helped me. you STILL need to follow the damn diet. reading experts doesn't make the weight go away (long, deep sigh that many 40 something women will resonate with).--WaitingforGodot 09:43, 23 July 2008 (EDT)

Alkaline diet - yes, it affects pH[edit]

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Good diet suggested section[edit]

I'm working on some research for another article and walked face first into a bucket load of diets that are good for you. I was thinking of including a section in this article listing them, but wanted to see if anyone had better ideas for placement.

The following is a list of diets or dietary guidelines developed by one or more medical association for the general population:

Possibly including this, some online versions, and mentions of Weight Watchers, and Nurtrisystem, which have both been shown to be very effective by research. I know we cannot advocate a specific diet here, but I think saying "here are some diets which were developed by years of research, or which years of research says works" would be OK.--Just relax, and stay funny (talk) 19:03, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

The thing is, virtually every site that is respectable has a good diet plan, cause everyone agrees on how it's done. Cut cals back to 1500 for women 1800 for men (adjusted if you are exercising a lot), exercise 3-5 times a week for 30 minutes per day (not all at once, if you don't want), eat your fish (or supplements, if you are not a fishy person)... Some plans have 30 day "make over your eating habits", some just lay it out. Some give you recipies, etc. But trying to list them is rather crazy, cause there are literally so many. Oh, and I personally would never count Weight Watchers or Nutrisystems cause they are both more marketing than healthy. They have healthy options, but WW is highly criticized cause the "point system" can be abused to eating just one candy bar a day and saying "see, i'm in my point range!", and nutrisystems seriously lacks quality grains, they meats are low quality, processed meats, and they still manage to put more pasta in your dishes cause it makes the frozen food "appealing" when you ahve to cut out the fats and sugars. Yes, there are studies that they are "effective", but almost any of the non extrem fads are also "effective", like high fat diets, and low carbs. They are still un healthy.Green mowse.pngGodot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans 19:30, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
I was thinking about listing these because they are good alternatives, and I think RW articles spend too much time defining things in the negative - this is a bad diet - while ignoring the positive - this is a good diet - and I'd like to start rectifying that. And my reason for thinking about listing WW and Nutrisystem is just that all of the research I'm aware of says that they work, not necessarily that they are the best things out there (you couldn't pay me to get weighed in front of people, and I don't have the money/interest in paying someone to ship me food I can make my own damn self).--Just relax, and stay funny (talk) 19:36, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Let me necro this thread and say if you want to write this, try putting it in the Diet page. Zero (talk - contributions) 13:47, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Low-fat example[edit]

Unless anyone disagrees with good reason, I'd like to remove low-fat from the list of examples. In the range given, the Mediterranean and Ornish diets are used as examples. I really don't think that the Mediterranean Diet can be classed as a fad, considering that it is recommended by major health institutions, such as the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics[1], the British Dietetics Association[2] and the NHS[3], to name a few. Also, "... diabetic generating approach like Ornish" suggests that the Ornish diet will lead to the development of Type 2 Diabetes. A review of the studies on the Ornish diet suggest nothing other than favourable health outcomes[4], including better diabetic control[5]. Neither of these two diet strategies make any kind of woo claims, hence my suggestion to delete this example. Obviously, if there are marketed low-fat diets out there making claims of woo, then I'm more than happy to have low-fat listed with those as examples. Swampf0etus (talk) 13:07, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Page move![edit]

I propose we create a new page for "Weight loss woo" or "Body woo" and use that to organize this kind of content. There's weight loss woo which isn't a fad diet, and there's even body woo that isn't really weight loss woo either, like bodybuilding woo. --DrH (talk) 22:16, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

References[edit]

  1. https://www.eatright.org/food/planning-and-prep/cooking-tips-and-trends/make-it-mediterranean
  2. https://www.bda.uk.com/foodfacts/hearthealth.pdf
  3. https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/what-is-a-mediterranean-diet/
  4. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9863851
  5. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16635593