Talk:Henry Ford
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As with the international jew article, no source given that the Nazi regime was funded. Whereas that hotbed of lies and misinformation, actual Wikipedia, has a source pointing to the fact that Ford turned down an offer to fund them. Robert Lacey, whose biography is considered fairly authoritative, writes of an anecdote where Ford had the stroke that ultimately led to his death after looking at footage from the camps. This could be apocryphal, but I think it's fair to say that just because Ford was anti-jew, he was not pro holocaust. Burkean (talk) 14:05, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Henry_Ford#cite_note-4 Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 14:45, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- And the evidence that Ford wanted the holocaust is...where? Incidentally, by your logic, the allies are just as bad because they provided money, arms and assistance to the Russian army, aiding a regime that was killing and torturing people in the millions (as was Hitler). So I guess the news of plants owned by Ford in Germany making arms for (gasp!) the Germans is bad because it wasn't our team, yes? Burkean (talk) 20:17, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- Tu quoque doesn't work. They're all complicit. Ford is more wrongful, because he (a) wrote against Jews and (b) inspired many Germans to follow through, while others did not. Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 21:14, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- It's not Tu quoque because I never said the things I mentioned invalidated criticisms of Ford. Follow through implies that he wanted and called for a holocaust, which you have still failed to provide evidence for. And extremely pro-war pro-violence germans (ford was a pacifist) trying to claim "ford made me do it" aka satan or metallica made me kill these people, you take the Nazis at their word? By that logic, those who called for violent revolution against the capitalist system and encouraged people to do so are somehow responsible for what happened in Russia. That makes slightly more sense (though still wrong) because at least those people advocated for violence of some kind whereas Ford did not. Define "Inspired". And who is they exactly? Tu quoque may not work, but neither does hypocrisy. Burkean (talk) 22:44, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- Tu quoque doesn't work. They're all complicit. Ford is more wrongful, because he (a) wrote against Jews and (b) inspired many Germans to follow through, while others did not. Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 21:14, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- And the evidence that Ford wanted the holocaust is...where? Incidentally, by your logic, the allies are just as bad because they provided money, arms and assistance to the Russian army, aiding a regime that was killing and torturing people in the millions (as was Hitler). So I guess the news of plants owned by Ford in Germany making arms for (gasp!) the Germans is bad because it wasn't our team, yes? Burkean (talk) 20:17, 1 November 2015 (UTC)