Talk:Leadership Conference of Women Religious

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Leadership Conference of Women Religious[edit]

I don't know if the Leadership Conference of Women Religious have been "emphasizing the importance of women being able to control the size of their families for both economic and personal health reasons" or not. I do know birth control is just one of many areas where the LCWR disagrees with the Vatican and giving that undue prominence distorts their position. Proxima Centauri (talk) 18:05, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

The link below shows many areas where the LCWR disagrees with the Vatican, An American Nun Responds To Vatican Criticism. Focusing only on birth control is the logical fallacy known as cherry picking. Proxima Centauri (talk) 11:14, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

There are plenty of men in the RC Church holding heretical views of various kinds. Why did the pope crack down on the women so early in his reign? Was this opposition to heresy or opposition to feminism? We don't know yet. A year from now we should know whether male heretics face similar restrictions. Looking for evidence whether the women are picked on could get information that improves the article. Proxima Centauri (talk) 08:21, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Vincent Nichols said in an interview:
"the old language – of mortal sin, for example – was... a misguided attempt to motivate the faithful."[1][2] This is a bit ambiguous but the easiest interpretation is that Nichols denies the Roman Catholic doctrine of Mortal sin. Nobody had demanded that Nichols retract or clarify his position. Nichols is one of many RC heretics according to one blog. [3] Vincent Nichols and the others haven't been given the same hard time as the women. Is that because they're men?

  1. Pope Benedict is a man of real poise, with an inner peace
  2. [1]
  3. (Archbishop) Vincent Nichols bashes the blogs

Proxima Centauri (talk) 19:32, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Or it would be you and your vendetta. Fuck your opinions in articles. Fuck your rhetorical questions in articles. Stop it. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 09:39, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Cafeteria Catholic[edit]

Cafeteria Catholics choose which doctrines to follow as the LCWR do. This is sufficiently relevant for inclusion in "see also". Why is PowderSmokeAndLeather unpopular? Proxima Centauri (talk) 16:09, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

No it's not. The phrase is a slur applied to lay people whom its users think pick and choose from different elements of Catholic practice, not to dissidents within the Church who have dedicated their lives to the institution. Shall we go, you and I while we can/Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds? 16:14, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Events of April 2015[edit]

The meeting of Pope Francis and the nuns was about a big a climbdown that you could expect from an organisation like the Vatican. Effectively Francis has admitted that Benny got it all wrong and overstepped the mark. Naturally this was wrapped up in sufficiently face saving language but the outcome is quite clear. Quotes such as

Vatican expressing what NPR's Sylvia Poggioli called "appreciation for the dedicated work of nuns in education, health and among the poor."
He said that there was no way to know how involved Francis was in the resolution, but that “as a member of a religious order who himself felt under the gun many times by his superiors, he would have some natural sympathy toward the sisters.”
give a general flavour of what went on. Doxys Midnight Runner (talk) 13:18, 17 April 2015 (UTC)