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Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 17
Further proof?[edit]
Web archive has a rebel claiming they had taken down an an-26, with the vkontakte post dated as soon as just a dozen of minutes after Dnipropetrovsk control lost MH17's signal..
— Unsigned, by: Stroferp / talk / contribs
Arguments against BUK missile theory[edit]
The claim that a BUK type missile took down the plane is inconsistent with the fact that BUK missiles leave a big trail of smoke that can't be missed by the eye. Searching for videos of BUK missile launches is sufficient to account that. Witnesses at the place never mention this trail of smoke.
Sources:
http://aun-tv.com/2014/07/was-mh17-shot-down-why-no-fireball-or-smoke-trail-why-no-missile-trail/
http://aun-tv.com/2014/07/rush-to-judgement-on-mh17-declared-russian-missile-strike-almost-immediately/ — Unsigned, by: Martinroosp / talk / contribs
Evidence supporting Su-25 jet takedown theory[edit]
Sources
Documentary 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuoIw3jBV4g
Documentary 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCsgilNl80o
- In documentary 1 a test is made of the shooting of an Su-25 jet to another airplane's body. Marks made by the bullets are consistent with the ones seen in photographs of the MH17.
- In documentary 2 a real test was made with an Su-25 jet to prove the maximum altitude ceiling of the aircraft. It can be seen in minute 15 that the plane reaches 11.880 km of altitude.
- Both documentaries show witnesses version of what happened.
- — Unsigned, by: Martinroosp / talk / contribs
The recent editor is quite mad[edit]
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=310809 32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 20:21, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
- Wouldn't you be?--217.136.22.252 (talk) 14:14, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Investigation concludes Russian missile[edit]
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a20900603/investigation-russian-missile-brought-down-mh17 —Kazitor, pending 10:37, 11 June 2018 (UTC)